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  While I don`t believe the Bible about GOD or other religions about a GOD ,I do wonder ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  i do wonder about the universe as we know it .

  it does boggle my mind ,and how such a variety of life does exist on this planet ,from the microscopic to the most advanced life forms.. in such an abundance .?.

  and then looking out there in the universe the multitudes of stars like our sun and planets exist that we have no knowledge of boggles my mind .. so ,maybe i am spiritual in some sense..

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  enoughisenough

  what am I to take from this? That those who don't believe in God think that this life isn't all there is after all?
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  disgusting money grab attempt

  by enoughisenough in

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  put under scandals because i think it is horrid...got this from jw facts page while i was looking for something else.

  check out how the jws tried to get money from a fund dedicated to holocaust victims.

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  BluesBrother...here is why I thought it scandalous! ( though scandal in some sense may have not been the right word) As I understand it, the fund was for the living who had survived- "restitution of survivors" So here we have a rich organization endeavoring to get monies that was for individual survivors. They didn't get it, but the fact they tried to is abhorrent and scandalous from where I am sitting. ( and how would that money, if granted, have been monitored?) The WTBST has published information, including a video ( Purple Triangles ) without having to take "restitution of survivors" -so it isn't like they needed it. ....so an illustration, howbeit a poor one. Let's say your house burnt down...you were injured in the fire and lost everything, including family members. You are disabled, homeless, and heartbroken. A group of kind people take up a large collection for you--and after all, you are in need! When the kind people go to give you the money, they find your rich brother wants your allocated money so he can devote time to write stories about your house fire and your personal tragedy...without giving any thought to the fact that YOU are in need.
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  disgusting money grab attempt

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  put under scandals because i think it is horrid...got this from jw facts page while i was looking for something else.

  check out how the jws tried to get money from a fund dedicated to holocaust victims.

  : copied and pasted-.

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  put under scandals because I think it is horrid...got this from JW facts page while I was looking for something else. Check out how the JWs tried to get money from a fund dedicated to holocaust victims. : copied and pasted-

  An Elder's Letter, dated February 1, 2001 referred to the Jehovah's Witness Holocaust-Era Survivors Fund Inc, explaining that the fund was being set up to assist gather money for Jehovah's Witnesses that were eligible for the payment.

  

  Whilst this appears at face value to be commendable, Watchtower was also requesting money for itself.

  www.swissbankclaims.com (as of 28th September 2009) contains the 1999 letter from Watchtower to the fund, or Click Here for a PDF copy of the Watchtower application letter. Included is a request to receive a portion of the funds on the following basis.

  "Some Witnesses died prematurely and left no heirs to make a claim to the Swiss Bank Settlement Fund. However, the legacy of spiritual resistance that they left behind is of great value in the education of future generations about the importance of standing up for the dignity and value of human life. Representing these individuals, the Watch Tower would be pleased devote any allocated moneys solely to the interests of Holocaust education and the remembrance of the prisoners who bore the purple triangle, according as the court might stipulate."

  It is disturbing that Watchtower requested money that could have been distributed to living victims, for what would by nothing more than self promotion of their organisation.

  It appears that Watchtower did not receive any money from the fund. A statement of distribution as of 31 December 2015 stated:

  "Inadmissibility decisions were claims that the CRT determined to be ineligible to participate in the Deposited Assets Class process. Under the terms of the Settlement Agreement, only the accounts of "Victims or Targets of Nazi Persecution" were payable from the Settlement Fund (with the exception of Slave Labor Class II, which was open to all Nazi victims). The Settlement Agreement defines "Victims or Targets of Nazi Persecution" as those who were, or were perceived to be, Jewish, Romani, Jehovah's Witness, disabled, or homosexual. Neither the CRT nor the Court had the authority to address Deposited Assets Class claims asserted on behalf of account owners who were not “victims or targets” as defined under the Settlement Agreement." See swissbankclaims.com/Documents/Distribution%20Stats.pdf or Distribution Stats.

  Individual Jehovah's witnesses did receive compensation, as part of the tens of thousands classified as "non-Jewish victims (Roma, Jehovah's Witness, disabled and homosexual)."

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  mentally ill/delusional or con artist?

  by enoughisenough in

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  maybe this has been discussed in the past and i wasn't here... what do you think?

  are the gb members knowingly pulling a con, or do they have delusions of grandeur?

  i will go out on a limb here to say that i think they are con artist.

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  "Do we know who is really running things?" I think it is some "worldly" organization pulling puppet strings.
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  wanting to leave JWs?

  by enoughisenough in

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  i will post this link to a video i watched recently in case it is useful to someone here.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n81a50e_z1e.

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  I will post this link to a video I watched recently in case it is useful to someone here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N81A50e_z1E
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  When is the time to say the GB were wrong about the jabs?

  by Indoubtbigtime in

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  it’s now becoming obvious more and more by the day that everyone was wrong about these vaccines being a good thing to take.. when will rank and file realise the governing body were so wrong to push them so hard saying jehovah helped get 99% of special full time servants fully vaccinated?.

  its something we are all afraid to talk about.

  we can’t say the words the governing body were wrong????????.

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  indoubtbigtime, I think it was in the July 22 study article where it is being stated how Jesus directed them as to how to handle the pandemic. So one could fall back on the paragraph or that video on the convention where the fellow is being coerced or the update video where they are saying "what does Jehovah know...." ...have that handy on your phone/tablet for quick reference and Then you could say something like, "I don't get it...why would Jesus direct and continue to direct the faithful slave to encourage us to take these jabs that are proven to kill and injure? You haven't said anything against the GB ( blame it on Jesus! or Jehovah!) Well, the obvious answer is Jesus wouldn't...so hopefully that would help people question the claim of GB being faithful slave.
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  When is the time to say the GB were wrong about the jabs?

  by Indoubtbigtime in

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  it’s now becoming obvious more and more by the day that everyone was wrong about these vaccines being a good thing to take.. when will rank and file realise the governing body were so wrong to push them so hard saying jehovah helped get 99% of special full time servants fully vaccinated?.

  its something we are all afraid to talk about.

  we can’t say the words the governing body were wrong????????.

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  Indoubtbigtime, I have tried to bring out your thoughts to a person who is in, and all I get is the defense: it was /is a personal decision...well, some on here are smart enough to know it was coercion, peer pressure, emotional blackmail, and your faith in the GB was questioned ( so you were spiritually sick ) and therefore God, if you didn't.
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  When is the time to say the GB were wrong about the jabs?

  by Indoubtbigtime in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it’s now becoming obvious more and more by the day that everyone was wrong about these vaccines being a good thing to take.. when will rank and file realise the governing body were so wrong to push them so hard saying jehovah helped get 99% of special full time servants fully vaccinated?.

  its something we are all afraid to talk about.

  we can’t say the words the governing body were wrong????????.

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  enoughisenough

  when I was in, I openly spoke out against the jabs. No, I wasn't popular! and was threatened with an invite to the backroom! The GB will likely say they were following CDC ( which they were ) but they claimed direction from God Almighty! They will likely claim it was everyone's personal decision, which it was/is, but the people were made to feel like they were being disobedient to and unfaithful to Jehovah if they didn't take them and also to feel like they didn't love the brotherhood. Do you not feel some sort of obligation to speak up? At least to tell others not to take the boosters! I am on the outside now and I am mortified that they are still pushing for the vax for the elder, MS, and pioneer schools! The house if on fire...people need to get out!
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  mentally ill/delusional or con artist?

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  maybe this has been discussed in the past and i wasn't here... what do you think?

  are the gb members knowingly pulling a con, or do they have delusions of grandeur?

  i will go out on a limb here to say that i think they are con artist.

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  maybe this has been discussed in the past and I wasn't here... What do you think? Are the GB members knowingly pulling a con, or do they have delusions of grandeur? I will go out on a limb here to say that I think they are con artist. Why? Because protecting the organization is the most important thing. To do that they have to come up with a control tactic, and what better way than to claim to be spokesmen for God himself. They have to know that some of the things they promote are against what is written in the Bible, and yet you aren't allowed to point that out or you are kicked out.
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  JW's: When EXACTLY did Jesus become king?

  by BoogerMan in

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  i thought it was in 1914. silly me!.

  w78 3/1 p. 18 par.

  15 - when was god’s son made a king-priest like melchizedek?

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  I remember explaining to someone Satan was ousted from heaven in 1914 ( therefore that is when Jesus began his kingdom in the fall of 1914. ( Along about Oct if I recall old WT articles correctly) WW! starting was the shown proof of that-the world being engulfed in war after Satan was thrown out. This was being gullible, because it wasn't until within this past year that I put together WW1 started in July and therefore didn't fit the narrative of Jesus beginning to rule in the Fall of 1914.