Posts by enoughisenough

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Micah 6:8

by enoughisenough in

i saw this in a video sometime back ( don't remember now ) but it caught my attention...micah 6:8 was changed in the "silver sword" ...they changed the words in that scripture from " to love kindness" or in some versions to "love mercy" or "love grace" or "love goodness" to nwt silver : " to cherish loyalty".

sometime afterward there would be articles about being loyal to the organization.

some of you may recall this.

enoughisenough

If I were to formulate this differently without how it is translated in scripture, so just pretend we haven't gone there: Do the words " love kindness" and "cherish loyalty" mean the same thing? Can they be interchanged without changing the meaning? Let's define in pretty simple terms.

Love- intense feeling of deep affection / To feel affection for someone / Have great interest in or get pleasure from ( I love football ) Like or enjoy very much

Cherish-protect and care for, hold something dear, keep ( a hope or ambition for ) in one's mind

Kindness-the quality of being friendly, generous, and considerate. A kind act.

Loyalty-the quality of being loyal Strong feeling of support or allegiance

So then there remains: which words better fit what Micah was trying to say within the context of the whole of Micah 6:8?

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JW words ph rases I don't recall seeing in the Bible

by enoughisenough in

i was trying to think of some common jw words and phrases i don't think are in the bible .. new world order new system spiritual israel governing body channel of communication organization reporting time pioneer aux pioneer circuit overseer kingdom hall circuit assembly district convention....,maybe you can think of something to add if you are inclined..

enoughisenough

how could I have missed this: God's Kingdom was established in heaven in 1914

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Do Masks really help in preventing respiratory infections? Recent study reviewed

by Reasonfirst in

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friends

in the recent coronavirus scare, masks were promoted as one way to minimise possible infection.

a study, reviewed yesterday by an english medical commentator, dr john campbell, says, no!.

watch what he has to say on this youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3vy2lyqn1a.. the study he reviews can be found at: https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.cd006207.pub6/full.

enoughisenough

one tell for me was if those masks served the purposed we were told, there would have been special bio-hazard containers for their disposal.

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JW words ph rases I don't recall seeing in the Bible

by enoughisenough in

i was trying to think of some common jw words and phrases i don't think are in the bible .. new world order new system spiritual israel governing body channel of communication organization reporting time pioneer aux pioneer circuit overseer kingdom hall circuit assembly district convention....,maybe you can think of something to add if you are inclined..

enoughisenough

I was trying to think of some common JW words and phrases I don't think are in the Bible .

New World Order New System Spiritual Israel Governing Body Channel of communication Organization Reporting time Pioneer Aux pioneer circuit overseer Kingdom Hall Circuit Assembly District Convention....,maybe you can think of something to add if you are inclined.

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Micah 6:8

by enoughisenough in

i saw this in a video sometime back ( don't remember now ) but it caught my attention...micah 6:8 was changed in the "silver sword" ...they changed the words in that scripture from " to love kindness" or in some versions to "love mercy" or "love grace" or "love goodness" to nwt silver : " to cherish loyalty".

sometime afterward there would be articles about being loyal to the organization.

some of you may recall this.

enoughisenough

peacefulpete, I won't debate whether or not Micah was redacted and expanded...the fact is the book is included in what we knowas the Bible. There are quite a number of translations published. The NWT is most unlike how the other translations are rendered for the same word; it was similar until the "silver sword" came out.

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Do Masks really help in preventing respiratory infections? Recent study reviewed

by Reasonfirst in

jw
friends

in the recent coronavirus scare, masks were promoted as one way to minimise possible infection.

a study, reviewed yesterday by an english medical commentator, dr john campbell, says, no!.

watch what he has to say on this youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3vy2lyqn1a.. the study he reviews can be found at: https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.cd006207.pub6/full.

enoughisenough

I never did believe they worked...just a control device

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Micah 6:8

by enoughisenough in

i saw this in a video sometime back ( don't remember now ) but it caught my attention...micah 6:8 was changed in the "silver sword" ...they changed the words in that scripture from " to love kindness" or in some versions to "love mercy" or "love grace" or "love goodness" to nwt silver : " to cherish loyalty".

sometime afterward there would be articles about being loyal to the organization.

some of you may recall this.

enoughisenough

I had a thought as to why I think the words kind, kindness, mercy, etc is better than loyal love or in the case of Micah6:8 to cherish loyalty. Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good. And what is Jehovah requiring of you? Only to exercise justice, to cherish loyalty ( "love kindness ) and to walk in modestly with your God. The way I am thinking is this: if you exercise justice, that would be towards everyone. If you loved kindness, you would be kind to everyone; whereas if you cherished loyalty, it would stand to reason you are only loyal to those you know -I think we are to be kind to all. If you are to loyally love...then again you have to know those whom you loyally love because how can you be loyal to who you don't know? ( hope that made sense ) I found lots of articles on loyalty but not a specific one where It was particularly noted Micah 6:8 from the sivler sword. However I remember that was something that got my attention in the video I watched near a year ago.

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Micah 6:8

by enoughisenough in

i saw this in a video sometime back ( don't remember now ) but it caught my attention...micah 6:8 was changed in the "silver sword" ...they changed the words in that scripture from " to love kindness" or in some versions to "love mercy" or "love grace" or "love goodness" to nwt silver : " to cherish loyalty".

sometime afterward there would be articles about being loyal to the organization.

some of you may recall this.

enoughisenough

I saw this in a video sometime back ( don't remember now ) but it caught my attention...Micah 6:8 was changed in the "silver sword" ...they changed the words in that scripture from " to love kindness" or in some versions to "love mercy" or "love grace" or "love goodness" to NWT silver : " to cherish loyalty". Sometime afterward there would be articles about being loyal to the organization. Some of you may recall this. This is an example of changing the wording to fit the desired doctrine. I was in Bible hub and looked at the word that was translated "loyalty". You can click on that and see different places where the word was translated in other verses of the Bible and in different translations. I went through a long list to compare but not all ( from Gen. to Samuel ) Anyway, what was consistent in the translations was the wording like "show kindness" , "deal kindly" --along that vein of thought. So in comparing that to the NWT, the NWT consistently translated " loyal love", which showed they knew to use the word "Kindness" because before the "silver sword", they rendered that word Kindness at Micah 6:8.

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Images

by peacefulpete in

simple question.

while the deuteronomists and later writers of the bible condemned the use of images of yahweh, they at the same time imagined him and described him in text as a man in the sky with bow and arrows or riding a chariot drawn by cherubs or sitting on a throne.

if the former is a dishonor, ought not the latter be as well?.

enoughisenough

if you believe the Bible, the writers didn't imagine him, but were given visions which they wrote down what they saw...or they were inspired to write the descriptions. I can't think where I ever read they created items from the inspirations and bowed down to them...as they did in the case of false gods.

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

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this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

enoughisenough

spoke with a JW friend who lives states away...she didn't know about Tony...It's like I wonder what he did! She also said that Jehovah cleaned out the organization once before and he would do it again. I did get around to telling her the ones who got cleaned out ( because I knew she was referring the Raymond Franz and others along about that time) were ones who were doing personal Bible study and found things that didn't go along with what was published in the WT, so they got the boot. I also told her about the elders going to be questioned in PA as to CSA and she was happy about that. ...all that being said the mental disconnect is in place.