Posts by enoughisenough

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Official WT 800-page Shunning Manual ??

by Chevelle in

does anyone have a pdf copy of the 800-page book (or reference manual?

) "jehovah's witnesses and disfellowshipping"?.

https://youtu.be/fxpdodqlut8.

enoughisenough

Why would it take over 800 pages to defend a practice if there was nothing wrong with the practice? ( thou protests too much )

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JWs don't consider older WT as revelant

by enoughisenough in

i am relating this happening.

i shared some thoughts from the 1989 question from readers concerning christ being mediator between god and man ( the wt spinning that he isn't ) and also the paragraph in that same article that plainly says: clearly, then the new covenant is not a loose arrangement open to all mankind.

it is a carefully arranged legal provision involving god and anointed christians.

enoughisenough

ThomasMore, I caught that point about the clergy and thought the same thing! It would be interesting to ask a JW if they have a clergy. If you had asked me, there would have been a time I would have said no.

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TV report-May 3, 2023-The Pa. grand jury investigation into alleged cover-up of child sex abuse within Jehovah's Witnesses

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds3q289vwok.

the link is to the tv report - may 3, 2023. .

below is a transcript of the tv report.. a pennsylvania grand jury has recently brought child sexual abuse charges against nine men—all jehovah’s witnesses—in what some are calling the most extensive investigation into the group in history.

enoughisenough

Funny how this "crackpot's" mind works but I had a thought about some videos about the GT that I think may be coming up in a study in July...( stand to be corrected ) Anyway, the thing that came to my mind was how they predict the GT is imminent (that's not really new ) and the governments would turn on God's people ( the JWs in particular )...so as my brain goes, when the officials start looking closer and closer at the CSA cases, then the witnesses will just feel like that is the fulfillment of prophecy, ( something like that ) so they will not pay attention to the real issue of CSA.

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JWs don't consider older WT as revelant

by enoughisenough in

i am relating this happening.

i shared some thoughts from the 1989 question from readers concerning christ being mediator between god and man ( the wt spinning that he isn't ) and also the paragraph in that same article that plainly says: clearly, then the new covenant is not a loose arrangement open to all mankind.

it is a carefully arranged legal provision involving god and anointed christians.

enoughisenough

I am relating this happening. I shared some thoughts from the 1989 question from readers concerning Christ being mediator between God and Man ( the WT spinning that he isn't ) and also the paragraph in that same article that plainly says: clearly, then the New Covenant is not a loose arrangement open to all mankind. It is a carefully arranged legal provision involving God and anointed Christians. I provided the scriptures to support that Jesus is our mediator and also scriptures to support the New Covenant is about forgiveness of sins for the many. I got this response back: I know that Jesus has given up his life for us all. A 34 year old WT is not going to shake my faith that this is the organization that he and Jehovah are using today. ....

So it was like that older article with it's false teaching means nothing because it is older, even though they still teach the same lies. This thing of "new light" and the older magazines being irrelevante has really done a number on the heads of JWs.

I had another person tell me that the older magazines didn't count because apostates had at one time infiltrated the society and they had to be cleaned out. I find it all disgusting...so glad I am out!

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Why did you leave the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i've never been a witness so i never left.

graeme hammond writes:.

for some years i’d had a growing irritation and disillusionment with the religion: i was getting tired of the pompousness, the arrogance and the control, i felt increasingly choked by their restrictions and i was drained by their demands on my time.

enoughisenough

my point was JW interpret the Bible to suit their agenda regardless of what Jesus himself was recorded to have said. ( besides how else is there to interpret what Jesus said at Matt 12:50? He spoke plainly-it wasn't a riddle.)

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Why did you leave the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i've never been a witness so i never left.

graeme hammond writes:.

for some years i’d had a growing irritation and disillusionment with the religion: i was getting tired of the pompousness, the arrogance and the control, i felt increasingly choked by their restrictions and i was drained by their demands on my time.

enoughisenough

fisherman "Again like I said before, on the basis that that’s how JW interpret the Bible. For example JW profess to be Christ brothers:

“Lord when did we see you naked and hungry… the least of my brothers.. you did it to me." I like it that you wrote JW profess to be Christ's brothers. WT 11/5/15 page 26,27 identified Christ's brothers as "his anointed representatives" and "involves submission to his brothers" The study edition of March 2015 also promotes the anointed as Christ's brothers that we should support according to WT. That however is not what Jesus said. Matt 12:50" For WHOEVER does the will of my Father who is in heaven, that one is my brother and sister and mother." see Mark 3:35, Luke 8:21 So it isn't just self proclaimed anointed that are Christ's brothers that we will be judged as to how we treat, but anyone doing his Father's will. But that doesn't work with the WT lies that want you to obey the GB because they are "likened to the voice of Jesus"...

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anyone thinking it good you left the JW

by enoughisenough in

a jw friend and i used to frequent a local restaurant together so often that if one of us showed up the waiter/owner would ask if the other was coming as well.

today i went there for lunch.

he asked if ??

enoughisenough

A JW friend and I used to frequent a local restaurant together so often that if one of us showed up the waiter/owner would ask if the other was coming as well. Today I went there for lunch. He asked if ?? was coming as well. I told him I had quit my religion so?? wasn't allowed to have anything to do with me. He questioned: Jehohvah's Witness? I said, "Yes". He said, " Good! I never believed it, but I respected others ." ( some don't think you should say you are no longer a witness, but I don't think that way. Speaking of it may keep someone else from getting fooled somewhere down the road. While on the subject, I did have a cousin who told me she had prayed for years for me to leave it.

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A new Tony Morris thread: Question

by XBEHERE in

i am not trying to hijack the already well commented on thread on this subject .

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5068920948523008/breaking-news-anthony-morris-iii-no-longer-serving-on-governing-body.

however i do have a question: for pimo's, pimq's, and those who still go to meetings in person fairly regularly... is anyone still talking about this?

enoughisenough

an IN person had some belongings here that I had ask several times to be picked up and gotten out of my care. Finially that happened. While here, person ask me if I would come back to which I said I was convinced the JW were wrong when I left and I was more convinced than ever and i would never be back. Where does this fit with the topic: the person asked if my leaving had anything to do with Tony Morris, because a lot of people and complained about him ( knew I didn't like him--don't know where that came from as I don't recall ever discussing him) and now Tony was no longer a GB. ( This said in the spirit of it being a good thing because it shows Jehovah is keeping things correct --not said but just the tone ( spirit ) of it. So the conclusion is this person has heard others complain about Tony and so took in stride he was no longer GB. I will add this person fully believes God has had and does have an earthly organization so the JW are it. ( a born in )

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Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

by slimboyfat in

have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

have you got any views on the information?

i find it worrying at least.

enoughisenough

"The only thing "disastrous" about the vaccine was that it gave the tin foil hat crowd yet another topic to drool nonsense about." and they murdered my sister with it ( along with countless others ) and it has stolen the health of her still living husband ( along with countless others ) ( I will keep my tin foil hat )

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A Little About Me & What Is a Resurrection?

by Sea Breeze in

a little about me first: i was a 4th generation jw who had major reservations about the wt growing up, but finally got on board at age 23 when i got baptized.

spent 8 very active years in, then 8 years out as an agnostic.

got saved in 2004 and been living the born-again christian bible-believing life ever since.

enoughisenough

My thinking is most in agreement with TonusOH...The resurrections that happened in the Bible were people brought back to life in their body. ( which was still intact as they had not been dead that long ) It is obvious that some died such deaths as their body would have to be reconstructed ( as in blown to bits ) Even if not the case, most who have died have become "dust" by now . The only thing I do believe, other than the recorded resurrections in the Bilbe, there hasn't been anyone resurrected from the dead, because the is for the last day and the trumpet hasn't sounded yet. Conjecture is the word! We don't know!