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  What was the strangest situation in your JW Kingdom Hall? Was it weirder than siblings having SEVEN kids together?

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is chart-topper: "jehovah's witness whose parents were siblings opens up about their twisted relationship - which saw them having seven children together".

  vanessa, from ohio, appeared on an episode of the we're all insane podcast.

  the 46-year-old explained she is 'one of seven kids born to a brother and sister'.

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  a group from New Jersey came to work unassigned territory and the local congregation was asked if they could help house these brothers and sisters, It was agreed two visiting sisters would share a queen size bed in my house. One sister appeared to be almost old enough to be the other's mother. They were from neighboring congregations in NJ. It was the week of the state fair where I lived. The two sisters would come in from service and retire to the little room with the queen size bed ( no chair in that room) even though they had access to living room, kitchen etc. I thought this odd. I also thought it odd when I noticed them cuddled up together on the bed. Beings it was fair week, we went to the fair, and they walked around the fair ground sort of laced together. ( ok, you know what I'm thinking.....The local congregation had the visiting group on stage to share their experiences in the unassigned work. I waited to see what sort of experience these two sisters had. It was a large group ( I want to say 14 altogether. ) Everyone told of an experience they had save for these two sisters.
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  What was the strangest situation in your JW Kingdom Hall? Was it weirder than siblings having SEVEN kids together?

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is chart-topper: "jehovah's witness whose parents were siblings opens up about their twisted relationship - which saw them having seven children together".

  vanessa, from ohio, appeared on an episode of the we're all insane podcast.

  the 46-year-old explained she is 'one of seven kids born to a brother and sister'.

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  enoughisenough

  a situation: a married JW man refused to sit with his wife and if he did, he made sure a chair was between them, but he didn't have any issue sitting beside his gay bible study, so he ended up sitting with the " boyfriend".
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  Disaster preparedness

  by ElderBerry in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.

  also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.

  please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.

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  I remember watching part of a convention where they people were going into the refugee camps. (and a JW donation box was in place!) Anyway, the point I will try to make is the preemptive programming to go to the camps. Well, if you look into some of the conspiracy videos, these are actually death camps to get rid of people in the future. They are equipped with guillotines. I have thought about why guillotines- maybe organ harvesting?Just a randon thought. The point is those guillotines are not there for the health and welfare of the campers! I have watched videos about agenda 21 and and 30 and sustainable design and there is a plan for to reduce the population and I THINK the JW org is a puppet of those in power who pull the strings of those agendas.-so teach your people to pack a bag and go to a camp! Then there is video footage of fields full of mass caskets stacked up. (coincidence!) When the congregation was first gathering details of where you would go,etc,, I thought how loving they are to look after us...but now I don't have rose colored glasses.
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  "Everyone Wants To Leave"

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a thread about steve hassan re-emerged and got me looking him up.

  his wikipedia entry had a point under "criticism" that there is an underlying assumption in his approach that all members of high control groups ultimately want to leave*.. while it is generally believed that there are a lot of pimos still attending, doing field service and giving lip service to the wt, i doubt that everyone within the congregations want to get out.

  it's not always internally and logically consistent, but it's been around long enough for enough workarounds to make it tolerable to emerge.. what do you think?

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  Dr Phil says people do what works for them. As long as I thought I was being taught truth ( because of listening to them to not pay attention to "apostates" ) I thought it was where I should be and didn't want to leave. ( however, in the back of my mind I thought if ever something solid I could bite into that showed them not to teach truth, I would leave ) I didn't look for that something and also there were things I thought they had wrong, but put that in the category of human imperfection) If I had looked, I would have seen. People aren't looking or they would see all the out in your face lies! So I think they don't want to leave. When people do come up to facing the lies, they don't want to believe they have been mislead for years/decades. They don't want to leave, but know they can't go on as before once the scales fall from their lying eyes. You may then have the PIMO who stays put because as Dr Phil says, it works for them. Some have to get out because staying in and playing along doesn't work for them-getting out is what works for them! Getting out worked for me!
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  For all JW's: Stop calling others "apostates."

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you don't want to be thrown into gehenna, read what your own faithful evil slave & christ say:.

  cj chap.

  3 p. 110 chapter 3 - "jesus christ said: “whoever says, ‘you despicable fool!’ (apostate) will be liable to the fiery gehenna.” (matt.

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  I am sure many so called apostates haven't left God, but rather JWorg...but the rank and file have it pounded into their heads that the apostates have left Jehovah and therefore are on fit for death. "come back to Jehovah"...what a laugh! the r and f don't know the difference between God Almighty and a publishing company.
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  George Orwell's characters in Animal Farm describe Jehovah's Witnesses

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  posting a link to the animal farm movie on youtube.

  in the comment section, you will see comment on similarities between the animals and jw.

  i watched the movie and i thought, this so reminds me of the jw.

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  I thought of another parallel: They start off with Man being the enemy and yet Nepolean ends up doing "business" with and thereby helping man. In jw land, the UN was/is the enemy and yet the JW joined forces with them as an NGO, working to promote it. Another parallel: the animals weren't allowed to benefit from their labor-their productivity had to go to the Pigs at the top, and the animals couldn't work hard enough for the Pigs, and that is how the Org. treats the r and f. It's almost like Orwell wrote a prophecy about the org.
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  When JW.org drops 607BCE...

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  probably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.

  in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?

  " by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.

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  What happens: anyone who remembers it well, and talks about it, will be considered mentally diseased because they got off of "Jehovah's Chariot"
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  Destroying Notes

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i asked the ai gemini about destroying notes.

  here’s the response:.

  this scenario raises several legal and ethical concerns:.

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  I have watched a couple of videos by " fixing my faith", and WTNY ( Watchtower ) is being sued for "spoliation" of documents. They are obstructing justice and being penalized for it, paying out a lot in sanctions for destroying evidence, but it seems less expensive than providing the evidence that comfirms they protect pedophiles. The rank and file don't know where their donations are really going. Thankfully, I wised up...and to think I made donations I could ill afford!
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  George Orwell's characters in Animal Farm describe Jehovah's Witnesses

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  posting a link to the animal farm movie on youtube.

  in the comment section, you will see comment on similarities between the animals and jw.

  i watched the movie and i thought, this so reminds me of the jw.

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  phizzy...I was going to thumbs up ( like ) your comment, but couldn't see the screen well...So I tried to correct my mistakes ( still not seeing the screen well...so ignore the -1 and you can keep the +3 likes I gave you. ) I didn't catch the point you made about all pigs being equal but some more equal than others, but spot on; Which reminded me of a talk at a circuit assembly about pioneers. The speaker said pioneers were executives-all of us were executives but the pioneers were a special kind of executive. I ask him if that was in the outline and he said no. ( but my understanding is they have to give the talks as written. I found those pioneer talks discouraging, because while it pumped up pioneers, those who weren't in position to ( or want to ) pioneer were shown to be less important. As to the Tony parallel, I thought of the booze. ( Napolean was drinking up the profits.)
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  George Orwell's characters in Animal Farm describe Jehovah's Witnesses

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  posting a link to the animal farm movie on youtube.

  in the comment section, you will see comment on similarities between the animals and jw.

  i watched the movie and i thought, this so reminds me of the jw.

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  enoughisenough

  posting a link to the Animal Farm movie on youtube. in the comment section, you will see comment on similarities between the animals and JW. I watched the movie and I thought, this so reminds me of the JW. See for yourself if you have the time to watch it ( or read the book ) In addition to the comment about the similarities, I was also thinking about the horse...The pigs pretended to care but sold him off to the slaugher after him working day and night for them. It reminded me of the Bethelites who worked for years, giving up their most productive years only to be sent away. If you watch it, do you see similarities? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5JgD8AhRjs