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  Watchtower July 22 - JWs being interrogated need to muzzle their mouths

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower has printed a disturbing article about self control and gives this instruction to the r & f .

  self-control also allows us to remain silent when opposers try to trick us into revealing things that could endanger our brothers and sisters.

  this might occur when we are being interrogated by the police in a land where our work is banned or restricted.

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  Drearyweather

  "Opposers" do not always mean police authorities. This comment in the WT is more applicable to areas where religious fundamentalism runs rampant.

  A few years ago, in my neighboring congregation, 2 publishers were rounded up by a mob of 30 people while in the field. Under pressure, one of them ratted out the Coordinators name and address to the mob, which then went and trashed the poor elder and his teenage son. He still suffers from a fractured ear drum.

  Many JW's live in places where mob justice precedes police interrogations.

  This is just one of the many cases that happened in India. I believe this is true in many other countries as well.
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  Any in-house word on Ukrainian Witnesses form HQ?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone heard any word on active witnesses inside the ukraine and what has been happening with them the last week or so?

  i checked the official org website but there was just the expected "fulfilling bible prophecy" stuff.

  perhaps someone here has bethel contacts who have leaked some info on what the gb is trying to do for these victims of putin's madness?.

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  Now the official JWdot-org webpage has some info. I wonder why it took them so long to provide it.

  The first update on Ukraine was posted on 3rd March.

  Jw.org is providing updates in a span of a few days:

  Update 1: March 3: https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/ukraine/Brotherly-Love-Prevails-Amid-Ongoing-Crisis-in-Ukraine/
  

  Update 2: March 8: https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/ukraine/UPDATE-Brotherly-Love-Prevails-Amid-Ongoing-Crisis-in-Ukraine/

  Update 3: March 11: https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/ukraine/UPDATE-Brotherly-Love-Prevails-Amid-Ongoing-Crisis-in-Ukraine-2/
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  Back to the Meetings. It's Offical!

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yep, the vacation is over, it's time to go to work------for free!

  😭😢😓😰😡.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/.

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  Our congregation received a detailed letter today to begin off-line meetings at the Kingdom Hall from April 1. A document A-261(?) has been provided giving instructions regarding conducting hybrid meetings. A thorough cleaning will be taking place tomorrow and each region has been assigned a branch rep will oversee the transition.

  Only those congregations will continue using zoom whose kingdom halls are under renovation, or who used to rent places for holding meetings and have left the place during the pandemic.
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  An upcoming Watchtower article saying if people Pioneer Jehovah will provide!

  by LongHairGal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw the post on reddit and the thread got many responses..can anybody believe the religion is still saying this??

  it has to be as plain as day that so many jws are poor and struggling today because they never got a career or decent job years ago.. sadly, there are still witnesses who believe money will fall from heaven if they are in the full-time ministry.

  they expect some miracle to occur..but, we all know the truth: people in the congregation will be hit up for yet more money for another bunch of irresponsible people pursuing poverty.

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  Sadly, there are still Witnesses who believe money will fall from heaven if they are in the full-time ministry. They expect some miracle to occur..But, we all know the truth: people in the congregation will be hit up for yet more money for another bunch of irresponsible people pursuing poverty.

  The thing is that you will find such people in almost every religion. Such JW's would have been poor even if they weren't JW's.

  I strongly feel that sometimes hard work, financial sense, and future planning are never the forte of some people, and being a JW, non-JW, or Ex-Jw doesn't change that. The inherent characteristic of a person remains unchanged irrespective of whether he belongs to a cult or not.

  That's why you have congregations where you will have a mix of the super-rich and super poor elders, and super-rich and super poor pioneers, and the same with publishers too.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  original reddit post (removed).

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  Lloyd made a lot of videos on Rutherford and his extra-marital affairs. In his videos, he mentioned that "while there is no cast-iron evidence that Rutherford really kept a mistress, rumors and suspicions of his marital unfaithfulness really question his credibility as a hero of JW's".

  So Lloyd makes videos and documentaries exposing other people's marriages, extra-affairs, and liquor buying habits, but at the time, believes that his own marital unfaithfulness is his private affair and shouldn't be exposed and condemned?

  To people sympathizing with Lloyd: Can't you really see the disconnect here?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  original reddit post (removed).

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  A few comments on Lloyd's YT video sympathizing with him:

  "You’re not a bad person, you’re human like the rest of us."

  "I have just listened to this again and my heart goes out to Lloyd. One thing that it clearly shows is how much damage watchtower does to one's mind. They need to be held account."

  "Nobody is perfect. Everyone make mistakes. We all know Watchtower mess up people's minds."
  

  "Contrary to what the WT hides (pedophiles) lies, scandals, false dogmas etc....You are a real man owning up to your mistakes, which You Don't have to do"

  "The nice thing about no longer being a JW is you don’t owe anyone any explanations about your actions as an adult."

  "Lloyd you are an honest, brilliant person who is human & has made mistakes. Thank you for sharing your truth, even though it was terrible you had to share such personal details."
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  2021 Service Year Report of Jehovah’s Witnesses Worldwide

  by Joker5 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2021 grand totals.

  branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 87. .

  number of lands reporting: 239. .

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  The amount of partakers is becoming hilarious…

  Its reduced by 500 this year
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  Another example of how Watchtower are rewriting their own history.

  by skin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  from today's daily wt text.. friday, december 31 2021.let your kingdom come.

  let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth.​—matt.

  6:10. christendom generally does not teach the scriptural truth that one day obedient humans will live forever on earth.

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  Drearyweather

  skin,

  The day text is correct.

  The Bible students in Russell's time believed in 3 classes: First made up of the 144,000, followed by a secondary heavenly class of the 'great multitude', and an earthly class of obedient humans who will live forever on earth.

  In 1935, Rutherford revised it to 2 classes: A heavenly class of 144,000 and an earthly class of the 'great multitude' with other resurrected ones.
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  Child pornography should NOT be automatically handled by a judicial committee

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  new information added to the "shepherd the flock elder's book" .

  they have updated their policy on viewing child pornography.. from a congregation standpoint it is not viewed as child sex abuse and is something that should not be automatically handled by a judicial committee.

  it states that a person viewing child pornography should be strongly counseled.

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  Not sure about any recent update, as per the latest elders book, Child pornography is considered a form of child abuse, and an abhorrent form of pornography viewing and is handled judicially (with a circuit overseer as a JC Chairman)

  Chapter 13:

  Chapter 3: Para 3:

  Child sexual abuse is a perversion and generally includes sexual intercourse ... Depending on the circumstances of the case, it may include involvement with child pornography or sexting with a minor.

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  Child abuse is a crime. In some jurisdictions, individuals who learn of an allegation of child abuse may be obligated by law to report the allegation to the secular authorities.​—Rom. 13:1-4.
  
  

  Chapter 14. Child Abuse

  10. Child Pornography and Sexting: If the elders become aware of an adult associated with a congregation who has been involved with child pornography, two elders should immediately call the Legal Department. Likewise, if the elders become aware of an adult or a minor associated with a congregation who is sexting with a minor, the Legal Department should be called immediately.
  
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  Body of Elders Leadership

  by bola in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  who has more power in the body of elders in watchtower.

  is it the cboe, secretary, service overseer or who?

  i am just wondering since in my congo there seems to be cowards among them..

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  The most powerful elder in any body is the one who is the wealthiest and the most educated