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  Is This New?

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is a very long time since i was an elder and the elders textbooks have changed multiple times since then.

  going back to when i was an elder, to the best of my knowledge the only way a spouse could divorce from his/her partner was porneia, if that person had sexual relations with a man, woman, child, or beast.

  but it had to be proven and that's the dubious 2 witness rule.. in fact, if it was not proven and the innocent party divorced and married someone else, then they could be hauled up in front of a judicial committee and be charged with committing adultery and disfellowshipped!

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  Drearyweather

  Pity help the poor man if he spent the night on a sofa, with his secretary in the bedroom, because the hotel reservation had been cancelled by the office junior in error.

  That's why the book says "extenuating circumstances".

  Also, my wife will leave me in a second if she comes to know that I spent the whole night sleeping on the sofa while my secretary was in the bedroom. She would prefer I go out and sleep on the sidewalk, park bench, or even under the bridge among the homeless if such a situation arises. She has made this crystal clear before we got married.
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  Does Jesus Live Inside JW's ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.

  know ye not your own selves, how that jesus christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

  - 2 cor.

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  Drearyweather

  Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? - 2 Cor. 13: 5
  When I was a JW, I would have been very uncomfortable allowing Jesus' spirit to live inside of me.

  If you were a JW, you woudn't have read the King James Version, but the New World Translation, which gives a different rendering of the above scripture.
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  Does Jesus Live Inside JW's ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.

  know ye not your own selves, how that jesus christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

  - 2 cor.

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  Drearyweather

  If Jesus dwells inside of people, why is he apparently not present where only ONE has gathered in his name?

  How can ONE "gather"?
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  An aspect of dealing with my elderly, PIMI, Father

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for a bit of back ground.

  i’m a full blown pomo apostate.

  nothing would please me more to see wt burn to the ground.

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  Drearyweather

  joe,

  You are doing great, There is no need to da.

  I no longer believe in the WT, but am in for my old mother's sake. She sacrificed a lot for me and my siblings, and I'd rather see her die peacefully thinking about being resurrected and meeting my father in paradise, than shatter her final days by leaving the WT officially.

  JW's who come to meet her enjoy my association and I just go with the flow. Some of these in my congregation are real nice caring people who are doing their best to serve their God sincerely. I don't have any issues with them, and neither do they have with me. It doesn't harm me to read the Bible to her or help her set up the broadcasting programs.

  For elderly parents, the time for waking them up has long gone. It's the time to give love and attention.
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  Sanderson’s “Young People” convention talk

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so did anyone else have the misfortune of listening to sanderson’s talk corresponding to the saturday morning convention program?.

  full title is “young people - choose a path that leads to peace!”.

  the basic idea is, hey you teenagers, you ought to be pioneers, wt construction workers, and/or bethelites.. i tried to put myself back in time an embarrassing number of decades…if i were in this talk’s target audience, how would i respond?.

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  Drearyweather

  I don't think Sanderson is wrong. He is speaking out of experience.

  He himself started pioneering as a teenager, and look where is now.
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  Military Service Confusion

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can someone please call these three guys and tell them that the first gentile christian was an active duty roman military officer named cornelius.

  these guys have been locked up for 25 years!.

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  Drearyweather

  SB,

  The article that you provided gives situations where soldiers can disobey their superiors if the orders are unreasonable. - But how many soldiers get that opportunity to scrutinize their conscience while in the field?

  Also, isn't war fuelled by state propaganda? A Russian Christian soldier will mercilessly hit a shopping complex in Ukraine because he is convinced in his heart that Ukrainians are his enemies. I'm not sure if his Christian conscience will be in bearing for his actions.

  In India, many Christian soldiers were part of the contingent that participated in Operation Blue Star in 1984. However, many experts still believe that the operation was a political move by the local government, and was utterly unnecessary.

  In short, Doesn't a Christian soldier participate in war in a zest of patriotic fervor and the propaganda fed to him by the ruling party? I'm not sure if his Christian ideologies will come into play on the battlefield.
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  Anybody interested in Judah Ben Schroeder? Here's two links. See if you can find who Judah works for. The info is in the first link.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://theworldnewsmedia.org/charlotte+schroeder+%28may+9,1920+to+june+19,+2013%29.

  and here's how judah looks as seen in a recent video - especially posted for those who knew judah over the years.

  closet factory testimonial from judah schroeder.

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  Drearyweather

  Judah and his wife Amber Lynn are currently in the US, but remotely working for legal team in India and are associated with an English congregation in my city. Amber works for India's Public Information Desk, while Judah serves in Legal. I can say hi to them tomorrow in the mid-week meeting (they join through zoom) if you guys want. Both are pretty high up the org.
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  Military Service Confusion

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can someone please call these three guys and tell them that the first gentile christian was an active duty roman military officer named cornelius.

  these guys have been locked up for 25 years!.

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  Drearyweather

  People who kill the enemy in a military operation are not guilty of murder. God will sort out the details in due time.

  So a Christian soldier in Russia is justified to bomb a church in Ukraine?
  
  
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  Military Service Confusion

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can someone please call these three guys and tell them that the first gentile christian was an active duty roman military officer named cornelius.

  these guys have been locked up for 25 years!.

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  Drearyweather

  The three JW's in the OP have already been released from prison in December 2020. Their recent photos also appeared in a JW broadcast program.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/eritrea/Eritrea-Releases-28-Jehovahs-Witnesses-From-Prison/
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  Watchtower July 22 - JWs being interrogated need to muzzle their mouths

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower has printed a disturbing article about self control and gives this instruction to the r & f .

  self-control also allows us to remain silent when opposers try to trick us into revealing things that could endanger our brothers and sisters.

  this might occur when we are being interrogated by the police in a land where our work is banned or restricted.

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  Drearyweather

  "Opposers" do not always mean police authorities. This comment in the WT is more applicable to areas where religious fundamentalism runs rampant.

  A few years ago, in my neighboring congregation, 2 publishers were rounded up by a mob of 30 people while in the field. Under pressure, one of them ratted out the Coordinators name and address to the mob, which then went and trashed the poor elder and his teenage son. He still suffers from a fractured ear drum.

  Many JW's live in places where mob justice precedes police interrogations.

  This is just one of the many cases that happened in India. I believe this is true in many other countries as well.