Despite it being ridiculously easy to be an auxiliary pioneer nowadays with the carts, that number went down compared to 2016.
That's because many Aux Pioneers moved on to become Regular Pioneers.
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Latest JW.org Statistics Are Confusing & Lack Context
by steve2 inearlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.
wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!
good effort, jw organization!
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'Ministers who teach the Bible' appear to include not only baptised publishers but also un-baptised publishers,
JW's have been counting it that way all time long since the time they have started to maintain stats. The ration of JWs to population has been counted the same way every year: Population/Peak Publishers.
In JW land, ministers who teach the bible (Publishers) refers to all JW's who go for field service and turn in reports. All unbaptized publishers are required to regularly go for preaching, conduct return visits and bible studies and turn in their monthly field service reports. So technically, unbaptized publishers too fall into the category of "Minsters who teach the Bible" and hence they include it in their numbers.
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if pre 1975 you said "The system will still be here late 2017" what would be the J.W's reaction?
by karter inone word for it.....apostate!
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They are living it down now because many of those people who remember it are dead.
Interesting that almost all current GB members were alive and baptized during that period
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Latest JW.org Statistics Are Confusing & Lack Context
by steve2 inearlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.
wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!
good effort, jw organization!
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I was also wondering, Incognito, if this includes unbaptised publishers including young children , as total jw's in a particular country?
No, it includes only baptized and unbaptized publishers. There is no practice of counting those who do not turn in their field service reports.
Also, are women who cannot be " ministerial servants" now " ministers"? And can they now officially " teach"?
In JW land, women can be ministers, and they have explained this :
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2012649
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little acts of kindness.
by zeb injust had a coffee on way home when two young mums with babys in strollers came in with the usual bags and stuff for the little ones needs.
i recall our days of little ones and the times we rarely went out.. i bought a coffee voucher for each mum and gave them my best wishes.
i delight in doing random acts of kindness.. i wish everyone here as well a safe and happy christmas/ new year time.
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They , JW`s just end up as parasites in the community they live in taking all the benefits a Government offers without giving anything back in return.
I don't agree with this. Individual JW's pay their taxes and hence as legal citizens they have a right to government benefits as other citizens.
In India, there are people who donate thousand of rupees to charity, but hide away millions of rupees away and don't pay their taxes. JW's are better than them.
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How many anointed have come and gone; how many remain?
by Moster injust wondering if there is any data about how many anointed there were in say 1914, and considering most would have passed 'beyond the veil' already, are the jw's numbers adding up?
we know there are more in 2017 then there were in 2016, but just where are we in the grand total column?.
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How many anointed have come and gone
The WT still maintains that the 18000 or so who take the bread and wine are 'partakers'. Only Jehovah knows how many are anointed in that group.
So even if the number crosses 144k, JW;s will say that they were just partakers, only 144k out of them are true anointed ones and only Jehovah knows who they are.
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Latest JW.org Statistics Are Confusing & Lack Context
by steve2 inearlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.
wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!
good effort, jw organization!
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The number of congregations can increase because of double counting in the same way the WT can double-count publishers.Congregation B and C are merged creating another congregation + 1.
4 congregations + 1 new congregation = 5 congregations.
No. The number of congregations are counted on the basis of the numbers of congregations who submitted their Yearly 2016 Congregation Analysis Report.
So in your example there were not 5, but only 3 congregations counted for the stats as in September 2017, as only 3 congregations submitted their Cong Analysis Report
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Watchtower Releases 2017 Grand Total Figures!
by darkspilver in2017 grand totals.
branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 90. .
number of lands reporting: 240. .
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So the more publishers you stuff in at the top then the more baptised dribble out of the bottom. The higher the increase in the worldwide publisher number then the more likely that the baptism number will increase in the following years.
Thanks for the explanation freddo. It was clear except for the above point.
If we assume that there are less converts and more born-ins who are getting baptized, would the above statement of yours take the premise that more and more JW kids are staying in the religion and then having kids who are becoming JW's, thus repeating this cycle and the rate of publisher increase is equaling the world population growth?
Because, if JW's have low retention rate( born-ins are leaving the cult) and outside converts are also less, then the peak publishers should go down at some point.
For e.g. In my congregation of 40 publishers, almost everyone is a born-in JW, i.e. all had witness parents. There has not been a single convert in years, but the publisher number is increasing because existing witnesses are having kids who are growing up as JW's. So, in reality, in my cong, born-ins are staying in the org. Is this a worldwide trend?
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Watchtower Releases 2017 Grand Total Figures!
by darkspilver in2017 grand totals.
branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 90. .
number of lands reporting: 240. .
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They can also count children who accompany their parents as they go door to door.
No. Children are not counted unless they are unbaptized publishers
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Royal Australian Commission - Recomendations for Jehovahs Witnesses
by curiousconfused inthe report is finally out.......... ————————.
recommendations to the jehovah’s witness organisation.
recommendation 16.27. the jehovah’s witness organisation should abandon its application of the two-witness rule in cases involving complaints of child sexual abuse.. recommendation 16.28. the jehovah’s witness organisation on should revise its policies so that women are involved in processes related to invesation and determining allegations of child sexual abuse.. recommendation 16.29. the jehovah’s witness organisation should no longer require its members to shun those who disassociate from the organisation in cases where the reason for disassocia on is related to a person being a victim of child sexual abuse..
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Why is this not on JWdotorg in the news section?
The recommendations are not on JW.org. However, the reply to one of the recommendations is on the JW morning worship video by Gary Breaux