And previous annual meetings have been posted and translated with no fuss.
SBF, in how many languages was the 2016 Annual Meeting translated and in how many has the 2017 Annual meeting been translated?
Drearyweather
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The watchtower does not have the resources
by pepperheart inif you have a look at the december broadcast on jw tv they tell you that they wont be showing you a normal format for december but the 143rd event of gilead because the watchtower does not have the resources other wise to translate it many different lanuages.. with all the cuts the watchtower have made and are going to make you would have thought that they would have lots of resources.
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Wave your phone lights and dance at the Assemblies!
by days of future passed inmy sister sent me this youtube.
in it are witnesses waving their phone lights and dancing in the aisles.
sorry if this vid has been posted before.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k7iw-zisgw.
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Drearyweather
As I listened to the music, I was sure I've heard it before. Here it is, at least I think so.
People "borrow" music from everywhere but how ironic that it is, that REM put out "losing my religion?"
Nope. The music is their own Kingdom Song No 76: "How does it make you feel?"
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Latest JW.org Statistics Are Confusing & Lack Context
by steve2 inearlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.
wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!
good effort, jw organization!
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Drearyweather
I don't necessarily agree that they were all considered as "JWs".
Incognito, My reply was in the effect of how JW's counted their members in the annual statistics that are published in the yearbook. As far as I remember, since the time annual reports have been published, all baptized and unbaptized have been calculated in the Peak publishers figure. This way of counting has never changed. But I may be wrong, Please correct me.
Although a person may fully believe and consider themself a JW, living their life as a JW including being active as an unbaptized publisher, they were not considered to be officially a JW but merely an 'associate' until baptism.
I agree with you 100%. But my point was- Have JW's ever made this distinction while publishing their stats? Two counts- Baptized and Unbaptized?
Regarding classification, publishers are also classified into two groups- Inactive and Active and then Regular and Irregular. But they are not published that way.
statistical practices and procedures may have also changed
Yes, they may have changed. But then again- Peak publishers have included Baptized and Unbaptized since the past few decades. That was my point. And since the past few decades, whenever the Wt wanted to give the count of number of JW's in their literature , it has been the peak publishers count.
please explain why "un-baptised publisher" is designated differently than "baptised publisher".
Since this classification is not done for statistical purpose, the only reason is that they do this for their internal pastoral purpose. Like the active and inactive publishers categories.
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Drearyweather
Despite it being ridiculously easy to be an auxiliary pioneer nowadays with the carts, that number went down compared to 2016.
That's because many Aux Pioneers moved on to become Regular Pioneers.
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Latest JW.org Statistics Are Confusing & Lack Context
by steve2 inearlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.
wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!
good effort, jw organization!
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Drearyweather
'Ministers who teach the Bible' appear to include not only baptised publishers but also un-baptised publishers,
JW's have been counting it that way all time long since the time they have started to maintain stats. The ration of JWs to population has been counted the same way every year: Population/Peak Publishers.
In JW land, ministers who teach the bible (Publishers) refers to all JW's who go for field service and turn in reports. All unbaptized publishers are required to regularly go for preaching, conduct return visits and bible studies and turn in their monthly field service reports. So technically, unbaptized publishers too fall into the category of "Minsters who teach the Bible" and hence they include it in their numbers.
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if pre 1975 you said "The system will still be here late 2017" what would be the J.W's reaction?
by karter inone word for it.....apostate!
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Drearyweather
They are living it down now because many of those people who remember it are dead.
Interesting that almost all current GB members were alive and baptized during that period
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Latest JW.org Statistics Are Confusing & Lack Context
by steve2 inearlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.
wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!
good effort, jw organization!
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Drearyweather
I was also wondering, Incognito, if this includes unbaptised publishers including young children , as total jw's in a particular country?
No, it includes only baptized and unbaptized publishers. There is no practice of counting those who do not turn in their field service reports.
Also, are women who cannot be " ministerial servants" now " ministers"? And can they now officially " teach"?
In JW land, women can be ministers, and they have explained this :
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2012649
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102010255 -
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little acts of kindness.
by zeb injust had a coffee on way home when two young mums with babys in strollers came in with the usual bags and stuff for the little ones needs.
i recall our days of little ones and the times we rarely went out.. i bought a coffee voucher for each mum and gave them my best wishes.
i delight in doing random acts of kindness.. i wish everyone here as well a safe and happy christmas/ new year time.
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They , JW`s just end up as parasites in the community they live in taking all the benefits a Government offers without giving anything back in return.
I don't agree with this. Individual JW's pay their taxes and hence as legal citizens they have a right to government benefits as other citizens.
In India, there are people who donate thousand of rupees to charity, but hide away millions of rupees away and don't pay their taxes. JW's are better than them.
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How many anointed have come and gone; how many remain?
by Moster injust wondering if there is any data about how many anointed there were in say 1914, and considering most would have passed 'beyond the veil' already, are the jw's numbers adding up?
we know there are more in 2017 then there were in 2016, but just where are we in the grand total column?.
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Drearyweather
How many anointed have come and gone
The WT still maintains that the 18000 or so who take the bread and wine are 'partakers'. Only Jehovah knows how many are anointed in that group.
So even if the number crosses 144k, JW;s will say that they were just partakers, only 144k out of them are true anointed ones and only Jehovah knows who they are.
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Latest JW.org Statistics Are Confusing & Lack Context
by steve2 inearlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.
wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!
good effort, jw organization!
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Drearyweather
The number of congregations can increase because of double counting in the same way the WT can double-count publishers.Congregation B and C are merged creating another congregation + 1.
4 congregations + 1 new congregation = 5 congregations.
No. The number of congregations are counted on the basis of the numbers of congregations who submitted their Yearly 2016 Congregation Analysis Report.
So in your example there were not 5, but only 3 congregations counted for the stats as in September 2017, as only 3 congregations submitted their Cong Analysis Report