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  Possible leak from Annual Meeting 2018

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm a member on jw talk (until now at least) and have been regularly checking up on their thread regarding the annual meeting.

  there hasn't been a great deal to report on except for this recent post that has been made.

  i may get outed but that's no loss.

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  JW detained in Putin's Russia ... accused of extremism

  by mikeflood in

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  from bbc news "five jw's from the kirov region detained with about $ 7,500 accused of funding and organizing meetings....they found literature...and two hand granades and a landmine".

  the russians are such idiots planting evidence....and quarrelling with the neutral and sheepish jw land...and of course inflamating their persecution complex.

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  It is amazing to me that JWs use their persecution in Russia as proof they are the true religion when there have been so many religions persecuted and banned before them and since them.

  Interesting. Can you list down all the legally registered religious groups that have been declared as "extremists"? Not just persecuted, but legally declared as "extremists"? Please include only religions, not nationalist or fundamentalist groups.
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  Possible leak from Annual Meeting 2018

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm a member on jw talk (until now at least) and have been regularly checking up on their thread regarding the annual meeting.

  there hasn't been a great deal to report on except for this recent post that has been made.

  i may get outed but that's no loss.

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  Given that there was a time when they decided it wasn't the USSR and didn't know who it was, it's not only a demonstration of their flip flopping but that they are just guessing.

  Interesting. Can you elaborate more on this? When was the time when they flip-flopped regarding the identity?

  As far as I remember, in 1800's Germanic empire under Wilhelm was the KON, followed by Nazi Germany as the KON under Hitler before WW2, then followed by Communist bloc under the soviet union as the KON till it broke apart in 1991. When the Soviet disintegrated, WT announced that it would wait and see which empire assumes the identity of the KON.

  I may be wrong, but I don't remember when they told that Soviet isn't the KON and they don't know who it is (both at the same time).
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  question about the go bags.

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  its been a minute since posting, have been trying to put this cult in my review mirror and just live life.

  but you know this beast rears it's evil head.

  my wife found my crisis of conscience book and out came the horns plus i guess what she is hearing at the meetings isn't helping either.

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  Drearyweather

  my question is, are they pushing Armageddon harder or the great tribulation harder than in the past.

  Officially, the go bags are recommended by WT only in cases of disaster preparedness. Not Armageddon or GT.
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  Is attendance down in your location too?

  by StarryNight9 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was commenting on another thread about how local kh attendance is down.

  memorial attendance was also way down and the circuit assembly had hundreds less people than what is typical.

  my jw family has even mentioned it.

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  Drearyweather

  They provide global totals for Memorial attendance, baptisms ,Bible Studies, hours reported preaching, pioneers - but not country-by-country breakdowns.

  Steve2,

  They do provide country by country breakdowns of baptisms, memorial attendance and pioneers.

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/2017-service-year-report/2017-country-territory/

  https://www.jw.org/download/?output=html&pub=syr17&fileformat=PDF%2CEPUB%2CJWPUB%2CRTF%2CTXT%2CBRL%2CBES&alllangs=0&langwritten=E&txtCMSLang=E&isBible=0
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  J.W.`s and Paradise and the Reality of it.

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when god created adam and eve and put them in the garden of eden it was then up to them to cultivate and take care of it ,god had no further hand in it .the responsibility rested with adam/eve and their offspring.. the same would be true in the paradise to come ,god gets rid of all of us wicked people ,but then it is up to j.w.~s who are left on this earth to restore such a paradise.?

  without god`s intervention.. think of it , this system is gone with all its infrastructure.. 8 million + j.w.`s scattered throughout the earth with.

  no communication systems operating .

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  smiddy: Think of it , this system is gone with all its infrastructure.

  Interesting.

  Smiddy, are you sure that JW's teach that all the physical infrastructure of this world will also be destroyed at Armageddon?
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  Developments in the India Branch

  by MaxPayne in

  1. watchtower
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  the following letter was read in the congregation today.

  it's for all the congregations in india.

  i have pasted it as it was.

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  Drearyweather

  Hi Listener,

  Public and Study editions of the Watchtower and Awake comes from Canada Bethel directly to the publisher's home through post. Like the old subscription model. Postage paid by Canadian Bethel

  Other literature comes by freight to India Bethel. Loading/freight charges paid by India bethel. Not sure if the funds are sent to those branches for the literature. The boxes that come from these countries are marked as "charitable material inside".
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  Developments in the India Branch

  by MaxPayne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the following letter was read in the congregation today.

  it's for all the congregations in india.

  i have pasted it as it was.

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  Drearyweather

  More clarification for context:

  p.s. what did they mean when they say they don’t print their own literature. Do they pay a commercial company, or do their ship it from another branch

  Slim, the magazines come from Canada, lietrature from the US & Germany and Bibles from Japan.

  Additional info:

  1. The letter is not a hoax. I was read in all congregations in India and is true to its word.

  2. Old Bethel sale: The old bethel was built by funds from other countries. The restrictions on foreign funds came in between the construction, and the commercial contractor who was building the branch negotiated with its US Head office and kept the construction going. Due to its locality, the branch once sold will generate money enough to keep the work going for decades. Hence the call for conditional donations.

  3. New bethel: The new branch office will be located in a major city in a plush business district. It would be similar to the Indonesian branch which is currently in a skyscraper. The political scenario of India is frightening and hence bethel complexes need to be housed in business districts to keep them away from vandalism.

  4. Sale Proceeds: The money gained from selling the old bethel will not be sent back to the HQ, as there are restrictions around that too. Hence, all that money will be put into further operations in India.

  5. Kingdom Halls: The KH building work has been accelerated even before the letter was read. 6 kingdom halls have been built in the past three months in my city itself. All paid by the branch, without any obligation on the publishers. All the kingdom halls are located in business districts or complexes. The reason for this is that standalone land is almost impossible to purchase for building a christian worship center.

  Publishers who were meeting in a run-down shaggies are now going to huge complexes for their meetings. As per the recent update, 100 such properties are purchased across India for kingdom halls. By 2020, all congregations in India will have a kingdom hall. Thats what my source says.

  By what I have seen until now, WT is not lying in the letter.
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  Developments in the India Branch

  by MaxPayne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the following letter was read in the congregation today.

  it's for all the congregations in india.

  i have pasted it as it was.

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  Drearyweather

  As an Indian and seeing the reality before my eyes, I wish to clarify

  cofty: So let HQ put up an interest-free loan. Simple.

  According to the Indian Government's order passed in 2000, Watchtower in India cannot receive any funds (not even a cent) from any other country in the world. Anything that comes has to come from Indian field.

  Personally, I find the idea of a billion dollar publishing company asking poor Indian brothers for money so they can further their own cause to be sickening. -pale.emperor

  WT in US maybe a billion dollar corporation, but due to government restrictions on foreign funds, that means nothing for the Indian branch.

  Prima facie, it looks that Indian JW's are poor. But JW's living the metros of India are wealthy enough to keep the work going. Many in India predicted that WT India would not survive even one year without the foreign funds, but the work plodded along for 18 years. JW's in India have their own pool of wealthy JW's to necessitate the shortfall of any kinds of funds.
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  Holy Spirit

  by Sergey Antonov in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jehovah's witnesses say that the holy spirit is inanimate.

  but how then can you sin against the holy spirit, if he is not alive ?!

  🤔 then it is more correct to say that it is not against the holy spirit, but against god..

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  But how then can you sin against the Holy Spirit, if he is not alive ?!

  What do you understand when someone says "He committed a crime against humanity" or "He betrayed the country", "He went against the family values"?

  Now think what sinning against the Holy Spirit would mean.