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  2019--June--8--Weekend Meeting--Video--WTBTS-PA

  by Atlantis in

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  watchtower bible and tract society of pa.. weekend meeting-june--8th--2019 speaker announced song at 4 minutes 30 seconds: public talk--is the trinity a scriptural teaching?at 31 minutes 12 seconds--the holy spirit is described as a finger and not on the same plain as jesus and his father.. at 34 minutes 20 seconds--jesus is superior to the holy spirit and jehovah is superior to both.at 35 minutes 20 seconds--public talk ends.. at 35 minutes 40 seconds--song.at 38 minutes 43 seconds--watchtower study.https://we.tl/t-idbbuwjlzi atlantis!

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  2019--June--8--Weekend Meeting--Video--WTBTS-PA

  by Atlantis in

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  watchtower bible and tract society of pa.. weekend meeting-june--8th--2019 speaker announced song at 4 minutes 30 seconds: public talk--is the trinity a scriptural teaching?at 31 minutes 12 seconds--the holy spirit is described as a finger and not on the same plain as jesus and his father.. at 34 minutes 20 seconds--jesus is superior to the holy spirit and jehovah is superior to both.at 35 minutes 20 seconds--public talk ends.. at 35 minutes 40 seconds--song.at 38 minutes 43 seconds--watchtower study.https://we.tl/t-idbbuwjlzi atlantis!

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  Drearyweather

  Sorry Listener, Maybe I missed that part. Where exactly in the talk does the speaker make this funny analogy? I'll listen to it again
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  2019--June--8--Weekend Meeting--Video--WTBTS-PA

  by Atlantis in

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  watchtower bible and tract society of pa.. weekend meeting-june--8th--2019 speaker announced song at 4 minutes 30 seconds: public talk--is the trinity a scriptural teaching?at 31 minutes 12 seconds--the holy spirit is described as a finger and not on the same plain as jesus and his father.. at 34 minutes 20 seconds--jesus is superior to the holy spirit and jehovah is superior to both.at 35 minutes 20 seconds--public talk ends.. at 35 minutes 40 seconds--song.at 38 minutes 43 seconds--watchtower study.https://we.tl/t-idbbuwjlzi atlantis!

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  Drearyweather

  Nothing surprising.

  Holy Spirit as God's finger has been the Watchtower's teaching since the 1960s, not something new.

  Not only the JW's, but many other Christian denominations too allude to this teaching.
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  One simple photo to sum up the heartless and hypocritical attitudes of many Jehovah's Witnesses

  by nicolaou in

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  this was taken in london yesterday by a twitter user still managing his fade so i can't be more specific than that.

  disgusting.

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  Drearyweather

  For the most part my comments about Jehovah's Witnesses not being concerned for non-JW's or " worldly " people was and is TOTALLY accurate.

  Flipper, your original comment was about what the five JW's should have done to help the homeless guy. Following was your comment -

  Realistically these JW's are invading this homeless man's personal space. I mean for the love of Christ, give this guy some space so he can sleep in peace ! Or if the J-dubs insist on standing so close to his sleeping quarters, slip him a $ 10 bill into his jacket. They should at least do SOMETHING to show they aren't the insensitive louts we've all come to realize that they are. Or show some respect for the man's space and move somewhere else to do their proselytizing ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

  I called you out on that and said that we cannot judge the five JW's based on that single photo. That was my point.

  The hypocrisy and abuse you faced were not from those 5 JW's. They are where we were years ago - captives to a cult - possibly facing the same problems that we did. There are mates and parents of forum members here who are active JW's. What would be their reaction if a nutter clicked one of our elderly sick mother's photo or our wife's photo standing at a cart and posted it here for all to comment on? The JW's in the photo could have been of one of our family members too.

  I have faced abuse from sick JW elders in my life too. But that doesn't mean that I rant on any random JW that I see in a photo or at trolleys. You don't know what is happening in the photo and my only point throughout my comments was that you cannot judge the 5 JW's based on that photo put up by the OP.

  I hope my repetition has not gone overboard and I apologize if my comment is disrespectful in any way to you.
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  One simple photo to sum up the heartless and hypocritical attitudes of many Jehovah's Witnesses

  by nicolaou in

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  this was taken in london yesterday by a twitter user still managing his fade so i can't be more specific than that.

  disgusting.

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  Drearyweather

  Flipper,

  If you feel that passing money to the homeless achieves the purpose of helping them, then I am no one to challenge you for that.

  You said in your previous comment that the JW's in that photo should have slipped 10 bucks in his pockets.

  My point is that none of us know if they have done that or they have been doing that.

  Just imagine, you are waiting for someone near a parking lot and you see a tired homeless guy walking towards you. You give him 5 bucks, he thanks you and after some time, he decides to doze off at the corner near you. You get a call and while talking over the phone, you look at the homeless guy you just helped. What if some random person clicks you at that moment?

  What does that photo tell about you?

  I had learned a valuable lesson from Ray Franz from Crisis of Conscience. He said that while the Governing Body was collectively wrong on many points, he greatly esteemed and regarded Lyman Swingle, the GB member. He said that he strongly believes that Lyman was a very good man and even at this point he thinks highly of him. Lesson: Don't generalize everyone in one frame.

  We can generalize the JW's for many of the bad things, but the OP has put in a way to make the JW's in that particular photo look bad. IMO it's wrong.

  Bashing someone based on a photograph may be a crazy JW elder's forte. Some of us label the JW's as being judgemental. Ironically, we are doing the same here.
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  One simple photo to sum up the heartless and hypocritical attitudes of many Jehovah's Witnesses

  by nicolaou in

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  So the JW's should have slipped a 5 dollar or 10 dollar bill to the homeless guy. I hope everyone who gave that suggestion does that to each homeless guy you find on the road. All the best with that.

  What about the guy who clicked the photo? What help did he give to that homeless guy, other than clicking and tweeting that photo?
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  One simple photo to sum up the heartless and hypocritical attitudes of many Jehovah's Witnesses

  by nicolaou in

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  this was taken in london yesterday by a twitter user still managing his fade so i can't be more specific than that.

  disgusting.

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  Drearyweather

  It's utterly insane to derive anything from such a photo.

  What if they have tried helping him? or, What if they have already called for help?

  Do we expect them to carry him on their arms till help arrives? Most of the homeless people still sleep on the streets even after receiving help and we can't blame people standing or walking around homeless people for not helping them.

  What if someone clicks one of us with a homeless guy sleeping somewhere in the background?
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  Do any of you born into the cult feel like your mental growth was stunted?

  by rockemsockem in

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  being born in to me was devastating.

  when you are a child born in and raised with the they vs us and they are evil and worldly and going to die.

  not allowed to form relationships with anyone not one of you.

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  Drearyweather

  If I compare my life with my 6 other close friends (non-JW's), my life turned out 10 times better than them, despite my JW upbringing.

  My mother was a strict disciplinarian (even before becoming a JW) and that helped us to excel in everything we did. We didn't go to a university or dated girls but still did well in our business and in our marriage, mostly due to our parent's values. Even during adversities, they worked harder rather than blaming anyone. Guess that helped us a lot.

  My mom always taught us not to look back on lost opportunities. You never know if your life would have been worse if you have taken up that opportunity.

  Some JW's in my congregation didn't have a successful life and went from one dramatic situation to another and always had someone in the congregation to blame. But it was mostly due to their own habits and choices. They would have been that way no matter what religion they belonged to.
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  Reaction to GDPR / field service letter

  by sir82 in

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  here is a thread on the new letter to be read to all congregations in all branches on adjustments in door to door work due to the gdpr:.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6274619758608384/2019-boe-elders-letter-may-13-england-ireland-data-protection.

  i have...connections....to a foreign language congregation in europe.

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  What if the householder agrees or provides consent to the publisher to record his personal details to facilitate a future visit?
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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Drearyweather

  Good point...we all agree! But just so these trolls - JWGoneBad

  'We' - the faithful ex-jw brotherhood

  'These' - the worldly and the spiritually weak

  Doesn't it look like the Digital Kingdom Hall of Ex-Jw's? A place where people giving a dissenting opinion or a criticism of popular opinion is branded as a JW Troll and apologist.