Posts by Sorry

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Living with Your Parents Well Into Adulthood the Norm?

by Sorry in

i don't want to seem like a jerk.

i know full well economic times are not the greatest.

there's no shame in struggling and staying with your family until you're back on your feet.

Sorry

I don't want to seem like a jerk. I know full well economic times are not the greatest. There's no shame in struggling and staying with your family until you're back on your feet. However, I notice that, at least in my congregation as well as neighboring ones, that the adult children still stay with their parents infinitely. It's even encouraged. Especially the women. Three girls, all daughters of an elder, all live with their parents. The youngest one is 33. All work part time jobs with the bare minimum hours, and devote majority of the time auxiliary pioneering. They seem to have no plans on moving out. Similar to a brother, 29, brown-nosing to become a MS. He seemed to become more independent, then abruptly quit his job to pioneer full time and reach out. He tells the teens with parents in the truth to just stay at home and pioneer. "Why get a job when Jehovah will bless you for putting him first?" he says.

I personally believe you should stay with your parents until you're financially stable. Not the best idea to move out barely graduated from high school with little money resources. However, staying with your parents into your 30s and 40s isn't right either, especially if you're not even willing to obtain employment. I pray that is only my area and personal experience and not everywhere JW. Seems you never leave your parents unless you get married or they die. If you willingly leave on your own and get a job, you're the crazy one.

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WELL BEARDS ARE STILL A NO NO!!!!!!

by DwainBowman in

well beards are still a no no!!!!!!.

in a new letter from the branch/gb nut's, beards are not acceptable in the us branch area!!!!!!.

my eldub brother in law, shared this today.

Sorry

Welp, if that article a couple of weeks ago wasn't indication enough, now it's obvious. One thing I will give them credit for, at least they were straightforward this time. None of that passive aggressive "conscience matter" crap.

All the child abuse cases, and the Society is worried about some damn facial hair...

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Oh, How to Choose What to Follow in the Mosaic Law...

by Sorry in

my sarcasm will get me df'd one day.

after being disgusted by the bs of the sunday meeting, i chatted with one inactive brother came back for that one meeting.

i can't exactly remember how it came up, but he told me and a sister whose a close friend of mine that she shouldn't be so uptight, we're no longer under the mosaic law.

Sorry

My sarcasm will get me DF'd one day. After being disgusted by the BS of the Sunday meeting, I chatted with one inactive brother came back for that one meeting. I can't exactly remember how it came up, but he told me and a sister whose a close friend of mine that she shouldn't be so uptight, we're no longer under the Mosaic law. (She has a reputation for being uptight due to being a MS daughter, but she's one of the most liberal JWs. She talks to her DA'd brother on a regular basis and enjoys my jabs at the GB and WT)

He was joking, but then she goes into a long diatribe about how we're suppose to still use it as a guideline. That there's many good principals to abide by. I decide to kid around a bit to let her know we're just playing. I say "Oh yes, such a good guideline. Maybe we should stop wearing clothes since they're all a mix of wools. Better yet, let's just grow out beards like Jesus did. After all, we go for to door just like he did. Shouldn't we imitate him?" Both the brother and sister cackled. Then her face turned white as a ghost; her father came up right beside me.

He reminded me that we just had an article two weeks ago about beards and how it's a conscience matter. 1 Corinthians 10:23 "all things lawful are not advantageous". We should put our "personal rights" aside and worry about stumbling someone. As if he's reading my mind, he brings up the fact that while we are no longer under the Mosaic law, we still need to use it as a guideline. He used the exact same wording as his daughter. I asked him "Since we're not officially under it but we can use it as a guideline, wouldn't everything be a conscience matter?" He looks uncomfortable, then mumbles "That's for Jehovah's spirit vessels in Brooklyn to decide." "Don't you mean Warwick, Brother... " "Of course."

I was glad we had that exchange though, because my friend called me this morning and told me she thought a lot about what I've been telling her lately, and I'm making sense, maybe I'm right. She's going to do more research about it. Hopefully, she'll wake up to TTATT. Feels good...

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Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

Sorry

A Believer, you seem perfectly confident in your beliefs. Would you be kind enough to explain in detail why the preaching work is effective even though JWs can't keep up with the current birth rate, the ever changing policy on blood (no blood to receiving components of it), and the most confusing one of all, the overlapping generations.

Remember, the Watchtower even said "old light should never contradict new light."

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Showing Kindness To Strangers

by FedUpJW in

i feel pretty foolish after reading the drivel in today's wt.

here i was operating under the impression that showing kindness to strangers was something that one did unselfishly.

boy was i wrong!

Sorry

Worldy strangers? No, we meant interested ones. Continue to limit contact with people of the world...

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Where Does It Say JWs Can't Read Pubs By Other Churches?

by Cold Steel in

can jws read publications by other churches?

or by atheists?

i've always heard these are apostate materials.

Sorry

Yup. Thanks Blondie. I knew it was in print. And even if it wasn't, they still make it clear reading other religions' magazines is a no-no. When my father and I first started field service, a MS was mad at my father for exchanging literature with a householder. He told us not to read it as "it's designed to put doubt in your mind." I thought "couldn't the householder say the same thing about us?"

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Meeting Attendance levels

by freddo in

jw
friends

i attended a sunday meeting today after missing a couple due to a bout of chronic apathy.

out of 74 publishers we had a grand total of 33. wonderful.

for those that attend, how are you finding the numbers?.

Sorry

The meeting attendance has sharply declined in my area. Of course, the elders blame it on the fact a new congregation was built and they made arrangements to send half of us there, but even after the split, our Hall was still filled. 2 years later, only about half the people still attend. Went from 150 to about 60

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Has there ever been a time when someone has been outed as a JW mole on this forum?

by Tenacious in

having been a jw for decades i'm used to watching what i do, say, or watch, in fear of being snitched on.. therefore, i the question begs.. there have been instances, i won't say how, where i've felt some members are being deliberate in their attempt to feign support for the anti-jw rhetoric on this forum.. any input is greatly appreciated..

Sorry

I always have a fear of a mole from my congregation monitoring this site, which is why when I make any posts pertaining to my personal life, I intentionally scramble a couple of details to throw them off.

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Well, the Apostasy Accusations Begins...

by Sorry in

so, it finally happened.

the first time i have been called out for being an apostate.

it started out innocently enough: my family and i were watching a tv show.

Sorry

UPDATE: After thinking of my parents feelings and the advice from you lovely people, I realized I went about everything wrong and decided to swallow my pride, be the bigger person and apologize. And surprisingly, they took it well. I said "I'm sorry (say that a lot these days) I got snappy with you. I shouldn't have done that. After all, the Bible says children should honor their parents. I was childish and wrong for what I said. I just wanted to be right. I didn't mean any of it." Then my parents embraced me and my father proceeded to say "I shouldn't have called you an apostate. That's serious. I was a lot like you when I was your age, independent. We just need to do what your grandparents did to me, and keep that fault-finding attitude in check."

So, everything is peaceful at the home front again. And even though I really didn't want to, I'm glad our house isn't a war zone anymore. My father and I worked on my car, then he finished it off with "Isn't Jehovah great? Most worldly families can't get past minor conflict." All's well ends well I guess.

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Well, the Apostasy Accusations Begins...

by Sorry in

so, it finally happened.

the first time i have been called out for being an apostate.

it started out innocently enough: my family and i were watching a tv show.

Sorry

So, it finally happened. The first time I have been called out for being an apostate.

It started out innocently enough: my family and I were watching a TV show. Next thing I notice, the family on the show were shooting fireworks for the 4th of July. My parents, on cue, started to insult the family and boost about their everlasting life. It was like something in me snapped. In the middle of their cackling, I said: "what's so wrong about July 4th? Not like it's pagan." My parents told me why I should celebrate a country that doesn't care about me. Due to JW stance on politics, I move on to Thanksgiving. "Same for Thanksgiving. Has no pagan origins." Then they said JWs ate thankful everyday and don't need a day to show that. "Still, nothing wrong with having a feast with your family and friends." Then they made it a point that we should have no part of the world. Besides, the origins of Thanksgiving is horrible: the original Thanksgiving was a celebration of getting rid of the Indians. At this point I'm annoyed, do I shoot back with: "If origin is so important, how come we don't follow nearly none of Russell's teachings anymore? Most of them are considered wrong today." My father states: "The light gets brighter. Jehovah eventually reveals the truth, so that's why things changed." "What about the issues that have gone back and forth? The Watchtower itself said new light shouldn't contradict old light. Doesn't a Scripture in Deut. say that anyone who has a wrong teaching is a false prophet?" Then came the raised voices. My father then said "you've been around too many worldly people. You've turned apostate." My mom nodded in agreement. "Even if you have questions that can't be answered, have faith Jehovah will take care of it" For the first time, I got the last word: "Yes, like he took care of the generation of 1914."

Their faces were priceless. I've been 'marked' by my parents. And it actually feels great.