i have noted that the irritable part of me got the better of me when posting about j f rutherford.
i acknowledge that a few on here have pointed out flaws in my reasoning and the way i reason.
and i agree with them.
I also admit I'm not really POMO, and neither am I PIMO. I've been familiar with your site for nearly 10 years now and I have collected enough information I need. My work here is done.
After 10 years your work here is done?
Good lord, never a dull moment at this forum...
meanwhile in the netherlands:minister dekker: jehovah's witnesses must review abuse policyin order to protect children better against abuse, the jehovah's witnesses must look back on catholics, according to minister dekker.
but abuse victims think that this approach will not work.. minister sander dekker for legal protection wants the jehovah's witnesses to conduct an independent investigation of sexual abuse within the community, just like the catholic church.
this is stated in a letter he sent this week to the parliamentary committee for justice and security.
Great news jochie! Kudos to Dutch newspaper Trouw who is clearly giving attention to this JW abuse problem. They've already published three excellent articles regarding JW abuse on a row this year.
I remember how the official Deetman commission (a bit similar to the ARC) released investigation findings that kicked the RC ass in 2011. It got quite some media attention. Although many people knew about the abuse, the Dutch in general were still shocked and many members left the already weakened Catholic church.
Let's see if this "next step" will bring some light to the "truth" in the Netherlands.
aside from obvious things that most people agree on, like theft being wrong and the importance of family, i can't think of a single thing i agree with the jws on, nothing that's specific to their religion anyway.
do you have any?.
Religion is a snare and a racket!
Oh yes... I agree!
2017 figures released to bethel families worldwide:.
peak publishers: 8,457,107. total baptized: 284,212 .
regular pioneers: 1,225,279 .
Thanks for sharing the letter to the congregations darkspilver.
There were also some interesting comments below that letter on reddit, such as
[–]Busta_Gets_NASTY"Does he have to get nasty?" 22 punten 1 dag geleden
I would almost guarantee that we will never have figures broken down by specific country ever again. We will no longer be able to do the math, they will do it for us. There will be no transparency here.
[–]Ich3bLeak all the things[S] 17 punten 1 dag geleden
And I don't think we will ever know how many partakers at the memorial anymore either.
The letter to the congregations was a pathetic attempt to be as positive as possible (as always), but by reading these comments about specific information becoming less and less available, such as the number of memorial partakers you know where it must be hurting for the Borg.
The WT can pull numbers out of their ass what they want, but as long as I hear friends and relatives tell about how JW's hardly come at their doors anymore, it's all bullshit to me. The decline IS real.
Over 2 billions hours??? Pff... third world growth and zombie cart witnessing without a bible are not very impressive while being sooooooooooo close to the end.
we know there will be no money in paradise.
but there will almost certainly be jobs to do.
we will be perfect at our jobs but that doesn't mean we will be perfect at every job.
Such good times ahead.
...hmm.. but isn't it a bit sad that the best of the best of the best of all carpenters will never be able to materialize on paradise earth?
Gorgeous! Hopefully the GB will have a good laugh themselves when they're checking "apostate" sites like these...
hi all.. it's being a while that i don't share in the forum.
after moving to another country and finding a job, i asked my congregation in my country to send my publishing card here.
once i did it, i stopped attending meetings.
Congrats Skepsis, you did the right thing! I think most here will feel the same about why they didn't leave the Borg earlier (that includes me).
Sure, life has its problems but getting rid of all those crazy WT restrictions and obligations is a HUGE improvement. So glad you are enjoying your freedom now.
And... again the Borg looses an apointed brother! Congregations must feel the pressure as more and more MS/elders are falling away because of TTATT/"apostate lies", adultery, age and (mental) health problems... what a painful trend for the WT! If only the GB would reckognise where they've saddened the holy spirit and put themselves on a slippery edge... god are they stubborn and self-righteous!
why one woman mysteriously started hearing 'divine' voices.
after doctors admitted the woman to the psychiatric unit of the hospital, they learned that this wasn't the first time she felt a strong interest in religion and spirituality.
she described four previous times in her life, beginning at age 13 and again at ages 23, 32 and 41, when she experienced periods of intense spiritual and religious devotion.during these periods, which lasted about a year or two, she would join jehovah's witnesses and then later resign, when she lost interest, according to the report.as part of her psychiatric evaluation, the woman also underwent an mri.
What a story Anders... poor woman! So she heard divine voices and used to cut herself during psychotic periods. Without having any medical knowledge of someone's tumor/disease and what it can cause, a JW normally would be very cautious and suspicious of demonism/witchcraft.
I wonder if she has ever claimed to be one of the anointed... would've been an awkward and delicate situation for the elders.
Thanks for sharing Maryo, haven't seen this one yet. How telling!
I guess the 2017 convention theme "Don't give up!" was already far too late and doomed to fail. The tide will not turn for the Borg...
Maybe a theme like "The benefits of google and the information age" would have drawn more truth-loving JW's.
is it still watchtower dogma that the seven trumpets of revelation refer to seven conventions in the 1920s?
would many jws these days even be aware of this?
i find it so amusing that seven little conventions in the distant past, almost a century ago, could be equated with such an iconic biblical passage.
Jehovah lol you triggered me (lol again)...
Revelation has always been my favorite book, both biblical and the WT's red "Climax" book. Stuckinarut2 already mentioned the old light theme. Oh how I was pissed off when the notorious type/antitype WT study came. The GB/writing comite had turned that book into one big ANTI-climax, just like that! It surely was one of my WTF? moments that led to learning TTATT.
Of course the WT will never apologise for failed light and unreliabilty regarding the "guidance" by holy spirit. Their focus is much more on loyalty and they will count on it that those teachings will be forgotten and eventually will disappear into oblivion. Of course Google Almighty will help more and more to wake up, but with the current mental condition of the lame, brainwashed flock and the strong effects of FOG, the WT's blind eye for its own false teachings and fallacies might even work for the time being... most will not care.
