Posts by redpilltwice

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Belgium Bethel on sale...

by sp74bb in

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friends

according to our sources belgium bethel will be very soon closed and the building sold.... selters germany bethel will take care of this area....

Wow, interesting to hear that Belgium and Holland finally are on the chopping block also. Ex-bethelites won't find much hapiness in the regular field here (they'd better learn some foreign languages IF they can find the drive). The Netherlands is very secular, apathetic and materialistic. Growth has stopped since the 70's. JW numbers are stable, in spite of population growth.

*** w78 3/15 p. 22 Building for the Future—In the Netherlands ***

When C. T. Russell, the first president of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, visited the Netherlands in 1891, the prospects for a spiritual building work here were not very bright. He remarked that the Dutch seemed more interested in material pursuits than in spiritual things.

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Do JWs ever doubt that the end is really coming?

by dogon in

as a former dubber i had many occasions to doubt that the end was coming.

i was told it was ok to doubt but not to think about it too much and wait on jehovah.

that bull shit lasted until they changed the meaning of generation in 95 and that was the end of that bull shit for me.

redpilltwice

I think many in my old cong were/are suffering from the delayed A. Poor people with bad health but afraid not to wait on jehovah. Should they know about these?:

"The year 1925 is a date definitely and clearly marked in Scriptures, even more clearly than that of 1914;…" Watchtower 1924 Jul 15 p.211

"Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon." Watchtower 1941 Sep 15 p.288

We all know there are many more, but why the f&*k didn't they show me GEMS like these during my bible study 20 years ago? They made it look as if 1914 and 1975 were understandable mistakes! The oldest J-dub (already deceased) in my past cong truly hoped to see Armageddon. He got to know the "truth" back in 1950. I now often wonder...he MUST have known at least one or some of these false -now hidden- Russell/Rutherford prophecies, but WHY O WHY O WHY did I only got to know them last year!!! If I will ask his children about it, it might bring my -so far- perfect fading in danger.

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Dutch TV crew kicked out of Circuit Assembly

by Anders Andersen in

in the netherlands, a tv crew for powned (a website/tv station known for their non-conventional approach and love for controversy) visited a circuit assembly.

the video starts with them asking 'is everyone welcome here, even criminals, bikers, gays?

', and the answer is of course yes.. then the clip focuses on asking dubs questions about gays and the caleb video.. in the end the crew is asked to stop filming and leave.

redpilltwice

Thx Anders

"Hereby your silent [implied] invitiation has been withdrawn, so from this moment you are uninvited.[...] Here is your coat. [...] Thank you for your interest in us."

lol Nooit zei iemand netter: OPZOUTEN!

lol Most polite way to tell someone to GET THE F*&K OUT!

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What I like about being a witness

by molybdenum in

redpilltwice

When I was 5 years old I was interviewed at a circuit assembly with my family about what I liked the best about being a JW. My scripted response was......"The ice cream at the 'semmblies"

Now they don't even have ice cream anymore.

Magwitch, nowadays, the money for icecream is donated for kingdom work anyway. Makes children really happy. The Caleb and Sophia video's are so cool!

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Type / Antitype article discredits many JW teachings

by Sanchy in

i was going over the type / antitype articles that were released in last year's watchtower articles and i've just realized how ironic it is those very articles can serve to demolish some of the most fundamental jw teachings.. take for instance the "questions from readers" section of the march 15, 2015 magazine.

after mentioning some "far-fetched" interpretations that others have applied to bible events, they go on to say:.

if such interpretations seem far-fetched, you can understand the dilemma.

redpilltwice

Sanchy, I remember this study very well, it really helped me with my fading! This crap immediately made me realise one thing...WHY DIDNT THEY INCLUDE A LIST OF WORTHLESS & USELESS OLD "LIGHT".

Guess it must have been decades and hundreds of pages of worthless overactive imagination. Same as with all the changes regarding the red "Climax" book! Has been studied four times at the congregation book study. It has always been my favorite WT book while I was still in, but isn't this book INFECTED and OBSESSED with types-antitypes and typology, constantly highlighting parallels with1st century and putting divine status on WT modern day organization?

Even worse is the parabel about the faithful/discrete slave, as Anders Andersen already pointed out...so sad...as it is an absolute core teaching.

Brrr...future doesn't look good for this cult, although so many are still in WT's utopian hypnotic trance

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Well, they came again. Really this time an Elder.

by rebelfighter in

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friends

so after the 2 special pioneers visited i thought i had given them an earful about the arc and the pedophile problem in their organization surely they would have put me on the do not call list.. oh, no not my luck i get an elder and his lovely little mute wife with infant child in the stroller this morning at 9 am.

don't these people have a job to go to?

it was a car with 3 men & a woman.. we go through the standard do you read the bible yada yada, i tell them i know the routine very familiar with your game.

redpilltwice

Wow, was that some real food for thinking "christians"! Well done

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questions

by Schilderijtje in

we are two students from holland, who would like some information about jehovah witnesses.

especially about the invisible return of jesus.

on which bible scripts do you ground this?

redpilltwice

redpill twice- That's what I was gonna say.

That's allright, glad to see some unity here...

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What's all the whispering about...during the meetings, what are the brothers saying to one another...is it important? & other stuff

by tor1500 in

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friends

just wondering, during the meetings, what do the brothers whisper about.

at most of the meetings i see brothers coming up to other brothers during the meetings...always whispering something...you got it i'm nosy...what is it they have to say that's so important during the meeting.

it's not just every now & again, it's all the time.... anyone here been a brother or have privy to what you whispered about ?

redpilltwice

Midweek meetings were quite stressful/busy for School Overseers (as it was my experience). Never sure if everybody would show up for their talks. To fill up the gaps, the SO regularly needed to walk around (or sending someone) whispering (begging) for volunteers.

Same for (last minute) changes about the anouncements on the good ol' service meeting. Could give you an excuse to make little jokes to someone also and surely could make you feel important, since it had to do with Jah's spritual food

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questions

by Schilderijtje in

we are two students from holland, who would like some information about jehovah witnesses.

especially about the invisible return of jesus.

on which bible scripts do you ground this?

redpilltwice

Sorry to most readers, but I'll turn to Dutch now, just for the sake of clarity.

Dag dames, hoewel de meesten hier op dit forum geen boodschap meer hebben aan de corrupte chronologie die de getuigen gebruiken om in 1914 uit te komen, vinden jullie hieronder de link naar hun meest gebruikte studieboek (Wat Leert de Bijbel echt?) op hun eigen officiele website. Jullie vinden de info puur vanuit de Getuigen doctrine zelf in hoofdstuk 8 en 9 en ook de appendix (bldz. 215-218) waarnaar verwezen wordt in hoofdstuk 8. Alle bijbelteksten zullen jullie hier vinden.

ttps://www.jw.org/nl/publicaties/boeken/wat-de-bijbel-leert/wat-is-gods-koninkrijk/

https://www.jw.org/nl/publicaties/boeken/wat-de-bijbel-leert/leven-we-in-de-laatste-dagen/

ZEER BELANGRIJK!!! Vergeet niet om ook de tegenargumenten en ontmaskering van deze leerstelling te onderzoeken op b.v. dit forum, jwfacts.com en ad1914.com! Pas dan zie je de hiaten en historische verdraaiingen rondom 1914! Succes!

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Shooting in the foot (homophobic video)

by Syme in

with the newly released homophobic video by the wts, it gets clearer that those people can't stop shooting themselves in the foot.

they are already under examination and de facto trial by the australian committee; more and more people and officials in western democracies inquire into their abusive tactics and put them under the microscope, and what do they do?

they release a video which confirms those worries.

redpilltwice

With all the failed prophecies and flip-flop doctrines, the only thing they can do now is to thrive on their persecution-complex and wait for Armageddon to come "soon". Video's like these will only fasten Jah's work, although the outcome will be a huge deception to thinking JW's.