Posts by redpilltwice

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The perfect answer if you get asked to go to the memorial

by pepperheart in

i will go next year :-) .

Another Burnt Out Elder

by Spoletta in

young elder(mid-thirties) in my congregation stepped down last night.

nicest guy, with two lovely kids, a great supportive wife.. it got to be too much, as the other elders are practically useless, let him do all the hard work, while they did all the "important" stuff.

literally ran him ragged.. he's still in good standing, gave the final prayer.

This could be an ongoing trend. In 2015, at the age of 48, I stepped down in order to start my fade. I was the youngest. In 2016, the long serving Secretary in his 60's stepped down as well and this year another elder died a natural death in his 80's. It's a matter of time before the rest will become too old/burnt out as well... it's inevitable! Now look at the greater picture...

What signal is given to the rank and file?

Being an elder does not seem to fit Jesus' promise from Matthew 11:30 " . . .For my yoke is kindly, and my load is light.”

Hebrews 13:7 is also very telling: "Remember those who are taking the lead among you, who have spoken the word of God to you, and as you contemplate how their conduct turns out, imitate their faith."

Well, not much to imitate is there? Unless, with few exceptions of course, you are willing to ruin your family life and (mental) health in some way.

And what is told to elders when the load isn't light anymore? Right... delegate some work. But if the younger ones leave, what is there to delegate? If the only way to cope with the pressure is turning to zombie modus or growing a stomach ulcer, the choice is clear and therefore...

CIRCLE COMPLETED! Isn't it just a matter of time before the org will be weakened/eaten from the inside?

I pity the circuit overseers, who's asses can now be kicked by the GB if their new responsibility to appoint elders and MS turns out to be not productive enough. Besides a dying generation of loyalist elders, I think only the bullies and egomaniacs in the BOE's can survive...but is this the way the flock wants to subject themselves to the loving care of the GB?

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February 13, 2017 BOE Re: Memorial and Special Talk

by wifibandit in

february 13, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: memorial and special talk.

redpilltwice

Wifibandit, thanks for keeping us informed...... always! The force is strong with you.

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I would like to rant about how I get really upset when I get some weak invitation back to the cult.

by schnell in

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my mother wanted me to know that the co gave a talk that kinda-sorta reprimanded an elder in her hall.

he is not the reason i left at all, and this does not address anything to do with me or our family.. my mother-in-law sent me texts which i ignored and now she has sent a picture to my wife on facebook just for me, and it's a prodigal son meme that says, "you see the signs, come back it's not too late".. yeah, it's not too late to accept a global flood in 2370 bce, or that man was created in 4026 bce from a golem spell, or that an us-and-them cult mentality is at all healthy or loving, or that religion is going to be banned by the un, or that i should expect anyone else at the door to accept these stupid ideas in the information age.. what am i supposed to say?

i usually just ignore them, but before i do that, i see that shit and i storm into this weird internalized rage where i start writing a response and deleting it.

redpilltwice

Schnell, you have every right to be upset. The only thing that might work, is standing above it. JW's can't face the knowledge that the truth is not the truth. On the long term we will win because time will prove us right but, we must accept that the ones who refuse to see are simply blind, too brainwashed and that sir, is very sad.

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New to site...let me intro myself

by LarryCope in

first, i've been out of the organization for 20 years this very year!

i was baptized in 1979 and attended one of the lancaster ohio congregations.

realizing i was gay, i left and after being in the columbus gay community for 6 months, decided bar hopping and cruising was not my cup o' tea.i decided to return in late '90 and was reinstated in '91.

redpilltwice

Thanks for your story Larry and welome to this forum...it's my daily manna now.

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My Story

by WeatherLover in

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i'm a 4th generation jw.

i started to realize it wasn't the truth over 2 years ago in late october/early november 2014. i don't know how exactly it happened.

i remember i had just heard about confirmation bias, and it hit me: i realized that i would be guilty of confirmation bias if i didn't look at the other side.

redpilltwice

Thanks for your story WeatherLover, I suggest you wait for the right moment to start your fade. Do it well and strategic in order to avoid as much pain in your family as possibly, but it will always hurt in one way or another. Your win (freedom) will be their loss, but it's YOUR life, especially when one day you will live on your own. Play the I-feel-weak/discouraged-card, avoid elders or at least keep your real thoughts to yourself and try to minimize your activity for the Borg. They'd rather have a weak, difficult-to-reach brother around than having to deal with an apostate. My first steps on the way to TTATT were triggered by looking for information regarding the Candace Conti's abuse case in 2012. Before that there have been accusations of sexual abuse in my congregation. The accusations luckily turned out to be false but it had put me on the same path to find truth instead of confirmation bias as you've pointed out and experienced yourself. My point...it took me 3 years to fully realise the impact of what I've investigated and to start my fade without fear or doubts. I wish that period would've been shorter, but hey, it explains if you know I'm 50 now! You however are in a different situation...good luck and very good you've looked for support here...it's an awesome forum!

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Always ask an Elder before sharing posts!

by Tahoe in

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lol.

redpilltwice

Doctor Who > Anthony III has a facebook page also. Hahahahahahahaha. Just a few years ago, they would have been labeled "spiritually weak" for having one.

A few years ago while I was still in, one older brother told me privately that he would disfellowhip everyone with a facebook account. Of course he was no elder or MS but I'm not kidding, he was dead serious, no trace of sarcasm or humorous intent on his face. I'm so glad I'm out of WT's never never land.

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How much money people usually donate to WT ?

by Bardamu in

i grew up in the org and never got baptised, however i was wondering recently about how much money my family and old friends are wasting in all that.

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i remember of course never talking in amounts, that it was important to give from what you can not what you have etc but i admit i have no clue how much the average witness gives (say in % of their income).. i'm sure it varies greatly, i'd love to hear what you guys have to say..

redpilltwice

It has been a while that I did the administration. Automatic contributions would vary from 20 euro up to a weighty 180 euro (200 dollar) each month! A few years ago (while I was still in) one elder privately expressed his concern regarding the congregation's income if the old 180-euro-brother would die. I know this brother indeed has died very recently.

Of course there is always someone's will...don't know how much the WT will benefit from his death.

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Can't Edit Bio

by schnell in

hi, i'd like to update my bio as it currently shows "none" but the update profile button isn't clickable.

halp?

!.

redpilltwice

Also solved! Thanks Simon.

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Short stay

by midnight in

after much research and prayer i am returning to being a jehovah's witness i can find nothing that eliminates them from being god's directed people , in the end they will reach the end of there journey despite mistakes and errors just like the israelites entered the promised land , thanks for your input and all the best on your personal journey ☺.

midnight..

redpilltwice

I respect your choice, good luck.

"Nothing that eliminates them from being God's directed people"?? Hmm... lying maybe? Including "proof" that we are living in the last days? Will you lie for the GB about that? Really?

Also remember that the bigger 1500y journey of the Israelites was a miserable one, filled with blood, wars, betrayal, politics, corruption, riots, imprisonment, exile and the rejection of Christ.