My awkward elders hearing

by Andamormonjustbelieves in

i was baptized when i was 14 years old.

i hadn't had any real relationship with a girl up to that point.

but when i started going to high school i learnt the joys of experimenting with girls, so i did not stay a faithful member of the congregation for long.

redpilltwice

Welcome to the forum Andamormonjustbelieves. Your introduction (and Mark's final question to you) is rather unique and still sinking in! Are you still young?

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I Have A Question About A Dog

by minimus in

jw
friends

i would like to have your opinion on something if you don't mind.

my girlfriends dog, a scottish terrier, is a wonderful lovable dog about fiveyears old.

my girlfriend owns a hair salon and takes her dog with her and the dog greets clients very lovingly.

redpilltwice

there are two or three men that come by and she barks angrily nonstop if they come by. Any ideas as to why the dog goes nuts with only a small amount of these clients????

You already mentioned the fisherman and the lawyer, otherwise I'd check if they could be JW pedophiles. Wolves in sheep's clothing really must have bad vibes!

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My Introduction - An ex-elder's story of waking up later in life.

by doubtfull1799 in

background:.

my parents got the “truth” while i was in primary school.

i was baptised at 14. i loved school and was extremely studious.

redpilltwice

Very, very welcome & great story doubtfull1799,

first of all...I LOVE your username. Wt has always tried to minimize the impact of false dates. Barely any mention is made of 1874 and 1878 ("Proclaimers" (1993) and "Kingdom" (2014) book) but when I found out about 1799 being Russell's start for "the last days" I had the "GOTCHA!" feeling. After that it's not that difficult to see how EVERY generation since Christ has seen signs of the last days, including generations BEFORE 1914, WT's "turning point in history" lol (check http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/apocalyptic-end-of-world-predictions.php).

I was not born in, but your story is quite similar to mine and I'm glad you really were a higher-up among the elders with all your privileges, wow! The organisation needs to feel what the price is for their intellectual dishonesty and playing with peoples lives!!! Many good sincere men and woman with a conscience are leaving, those who can't leave but know TTATT are voting with their wallets, time, energy etc.

Just like you, the infathomable WT studies and last but not least, the ARC testimonies were the final blow for me after a few years of growing doubt since the Candace Conti case. I faded (and my whole family with me) without real concequences. Of course ex-elders know how to play the game but that never is a guarantee to skip under the radar without an amount of serious damage or backstabbing. I'm pretty sure the remaining elders also weren't in for a witch hunt, although I openly expressed serious doubts regarding 1914 and the sexual abuse scandals, even in the face of the circuit overseer!!! I was the youngest, the rest will become burnt up sooner or later...it's inevitable .

I hope things work out well for you...you seem to be the kind of guy that has earned enough respect in order to not to be slained. That's a really good thing considering your current situation.

For myself, the more I become aware of the hidden darkness and layer upon layer of hypocrisy within' the WT Borganisation, the more I long for writing a DA letter. I feel they don't even deserve to have my name on the inactives list, but it would also cost me a few JW friends who I can still talk to and who don't judge me. That's also worth something.

Could you please pm me which articles you wrote? If not, you will be forgiven (that's how this forum works, har har har )

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Thank You Stephanie Fessler

by jwleaks in

jw
friends

stephanie, just a warm thank you for going public and allowing us to look into your personal and private life.

congratulations on your victory.

in a better world there would be no need to pursue such a cause, therefore congrats are tempered with unfortunate reality.

redpilltwice

Amen to that jwleaks! We sympathise with all of them.

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Bethel Library moving to Warwick, are older items 'vanishing'

by Lostandfound in

in a post re dates etc from fatfreek reference was made to huge library at bethel with items dating back to pastor rs day.

like the year 1975 which has vanished from wt theology, are gb using move to let them put all old and inconvenient items into some sort of cold storage and off library shelves.

already the revelation book has gone from the orgs website, and that was quite recent relatively, we studied it 3 times at congregation book study, yet now, like type and antitype it mysteriously was never there.

redpilltwice

Correction: Revelation book was studied four times.

Not sure if you meant three times as for "we", but I know because my very first congregation book study was during the third time. I was extremely happy with the fourth time because it was my favorite book. Deeper things only to be understood by the remnant and hidden for satan's system? My ass!!! All vanished... swept from the table with one stroke... never forgave them for this new "light". Friggin' unbelievable!!!

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Violent Games/Movie

by Saethydd in

all through my childhood, i was told about the evils of violence (and magic) in entertainment, i doubt i could count the number of movies and video games i wasn't allowed to enjoy for that very reason.

i did always watch movies and play video games with a certain amount of violence in them, but i was careful to keep it at the teen/pg-13 rating.. in the last year or so though i've started trying out games like skyrim, fallout 3, and thief.

(since i still live with my parents i'm careful about where and when i play them.

redpilltwice

Hmm.. are you sure not to confess to the elders and your parents?

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It just seems that there isn't enough in it to pin it to them

by joe134cd in

i was just thinking this morning about the court cases wt is facing and although i do think there are enough of them is there just enough in them to pin it to wt.

i sort of get the feeling a lot of these cases are revolving around the definition of terms and also an attitude of could-a, should-a, would-a.

even with the latest example it raised more questions than solutions and i'm guessing that's why it was settled out of court.

redpilltwice

Things are piling up however...awareness is always the start.

http://jwsurvey.org/child-abuse-2/breaking-news-watchtowers-defense-collapses-jehovahs-witnesses-reproved-for-failure-to-report-child-abuse-settlement-with-fessler-reached

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The sly tactics the elders are using to malign my name!

by stuckinarut2 in

i have had it confirmed now, that since stopping attending over 18 months ago, the elders have set out to deliberately ruin my name and character .. they have been talking to every witness from the local area and saying things like "be careful of him, he has the ability to implant thoughts in your minds, and he only pretends to be kind and caring".

so, all i have to say to them is, "bravo!

if that is the method you want to employ, you have reached the very depths of bad behaviour!".

redpilltwice

"be careful of him, he has the ability to implant thoughts in your minds, and he only pretends to be kind and caring"

Wow,.and those elders dare to forget that this is an exact description of the WT brainwash tactics during bible study with newbies? Just replace "him" with "the WT" and voila!

I agree with you...this is disgusting. Try to stand above it, maybe someone who really knows you as you are will wake up from this BS...

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