Posts by redpilltwice

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Life after jw

by Jrjw in

hi has anyone still kept searching for the truth after leaving wts?

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redpilltwice

No, I got myself a tattoo with the following words from a favorite band of mine:

Who can face the knowledge that the truth is not the truth?

Obsolete, absolute.

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The Netherlands: Minister for Legal Protection wants Jehovah's Witnesses to conduct an independent investigation of sexual abuse

by jochie in

meanwhile in the netherlands:minister dekker: jehovah's witnesses must review abuse policyin order to protect children better against abuse, the jehovah's witnesses must look back on catholics, according to minister dekker.

but abuse victims think that this approach will not work.. minister sander dekker for legal protection wants the jehovah's witnesses to conduct an independent investigation of sexual abuse within the community, just like the catholic church.

this is stated in a letter he sent this week to the parliamentary committee for justice and security.

redpilltwice

This is just a start!. I am the chairman of the Reclaimed Voices foundation and we will certainly be heatd by the minister. In this hearing we will refer to the ARC \reports.

I know it's just a start and references to ARC and Deetman Commission will only help the case. I think it's a privilege to have you on this forum and thank you for all the efforts jochie. I'm also Dutch so a private pm in our mother language is always optional.

Government officials are not trained to see the double speech of the Wachtower society, so there is a task for us here.

So true and double speech it is! Here is a link to the official answer of the Dutch minister Sander Dekker where he reacts to a request of a Commission for Justice and Safety that asks attention for the Trouw articles. Sorry it's in Dutch. I found no available translation but it's as official as it can be!

https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/documenten/kamerstukken/2017/12/12/tk-antwoord-op-verzoek-vaste-commissie-justitie-en-veiligheid-ten-aanzien-van-misbruik-binnen-jehova-s-getuigen

In that letter it is mentioned that there has been contact between the minister's department and JW board members. These JW officials have claimed that measures have been taken to prevent sexual abuse and that victims are stimulated to report to the police. [bold mine]

As a resigned elder I have experienced first hand that these words are not true in most cases and deliberately leave a misleading impression. The use of the word "stimulated" is so wrong as every informed person knows that the elders were always told not to forbid nor encourage such actions. My experience up to 2015 is that they would not bring it up unless the victim brought it up. Certain details in their policies may have been changed recently, but we all know that many victims already have been damaged by these policies for decades. WT is trying to save face in the very last second of a long history of abuse scandals, but with so many voices being heard the truth will be known through all the personal testimonies of JW abuse victims.

Good luck with your mission and your invitation to also talk to officials of the ministry!

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Is this life all there is?

by Fisherman in

jw
friends

what do you sincerely think?

do you nurture any hope?.

redpilltwice

Most probably not and I think I'm 99,9% sure about that, the rest is intuition. But... it would be exciting to know if our mental energy (thoughts) would still exist or be preserved somewhere in this or some other universe. I wouldn't call that life, soul or spirit, but maybe some coded form of information (yes, I love The Matrix). Most of what we see is nothing compared to what we can't see... dark matter, dark energy. There still is so much we don't know. Without any solid proof we can only speculate within the realm of our current knowledge.

My hope however is zero...

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"We never solicit donations" - really?

by doubtfull1799 in

inspired by this weeks clam article which again "reminds" the brothers pdf their obligation/privilege to donate "voluntarily" i have complied a list of articles or videos in the last 5 years where donations are indeed solicited or encouraged.

the society may argue that these are not actual solicitations because no plate was passed around.

but a donation box is just a more discrete and subtle version of the plate.

redpilltwice

Thanks for the research D1799, I appreciate the effort!

2015, a remarkable increase of donation articles... also the year of the ARC...wow!

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My final topic

by pomo6780 in

i have noted that the irritable part of me got the better of me when posting about j f rutherford.

i acknowledge that a few on here have pointed out flaws in my reasoning and the way i reason.

and i agree with them.

redpilltwice

I also admit I'm not really POMO, and neither am I PIMO. I've been familiar with your site for nearly 10 years now and I have collected enough information I need. My work here is done.

After 10 years your work here is done?

Good lord, never a dull moment at this forum...

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The Netherlands: Minister for Legal Protection wants Jehovah's Witnesses to conduct an independent investigation of sexual abuse

by jochie in

meanwhile in the netherlands:minister dekker: jehovah's witnesses must review abuse policyin order to protect children better against abuse, the jehovah's witnesses must look back on catholics, according to minister dekker.

but abuse victims think that this approach will not work.. minister sander dekker for legal protection wants the jehovah's witnesses to conduct an independent investigation of sexual abuse within the community, just like the catholic church.

this is stated in a letter he sent this week to the parliamentary committee for justice and security.

redpilltwice

Great news jochie! Kudos to Dutch newspaper Trouw who is clearly giving attention to this JW abuse problem. They've already published three excellent articles regarding JW abuse on a row this year.

I remember how the official Deetman commission (a bit similar to the ARC) released investigation findings that kicked the RC ass in 2011. It got quite some media attention. Although many people knew about the abuse, the Dutch in general were still shocked and many members left the already weakened Catholic church.

Let's see if this "next step" will bring some light to the "truth" in the Netherlands.

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Things You Still Agree With The JWs On

by Fred Franztone in

aside from obvious things that most people agree on, like theft being wrong and the importance of family, i can't think of a single thing i agree with the jws on, nothing that's specific to their religion anyway.

do you have any?.

redpilltwice

Religion is a snare and a racket!

Oh yes... I agree!

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2017 Service Year Report Grand Totals

by Drearyweather in

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friends

2017 figures released to bethel families worldwide:.

peak publishers: 8,457,107. total baptized: 284,212 .

regular pioneers: 1,225,279 .

redpilltwice

Thanks for sharing the letter to the congregations darkspilver.

There were also some interesting comments below that letter on reddit, such as

[–]Busta_Gets_NASTY"Does he have to get nasty?" 22 punten 1 dag geleden
I would almost guarantee that we will never have figures broken down by specific country ever again. We will no longer be able to do the math, they will do it for us. There will be no transparency here.

[–]Ich3bLeak all the things[S] 17 punten 1 dag geleden
And I don't think we will ever know how many partakers at the memorial anymore either.

The letter to the congregations was a pathetic attempt to be as positive as possible (as always), but by reading these comments about specific information becoming less and less available, such as the number of memorial partakers you know where it must be hurting for the Borg.

The WT can pull numbers out of their ass what they want, but as long as I hear friends and relatives tell about how JW's hardly come at their doors anymore, it's all bullshit to me. The decline IS real.

Over 2 billions hours??? Pff... third world growth and zombie cart witnessing without a bible are not very impressive while being sooooooooooo close to the end.

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