Posts by QC

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Design or Non-Design, finally we know, Darwin's Doubt

by QC in

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if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.

this is a game changer.

the bomb!.

QC

If you understood the first thing about genetics... [Evolution] does prove common descent beyond all reasonable doubt.

Not quite, sorry cofty.

Tells us about the MECHANISM that Evolution uses to deliver randomly and by chance ("natural selection") the guidance of precise genetics to differentiate animals from humans with reasoning, love, justice, introspection, etc.?

Your common ancestry thread doesn’t explain it.

That's very plausible with an intelligent Creator using the power of his genetic toolkit. Easily explained.

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Design or Non-Design, finally we know, Darwin's Doubt

by QC in

jw
friends

if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.

this is a game changer.

the bomb!.

QC

99% genetic similarity between humans and chimps proves Evolution.

No, it doesn't prove Evolution.

Both chimps and human have the same designer, not the same common ancestry. Humans and animals are made of flesh from the same dust of the Earth by the same creator. This speaks to the efficiency of the Creator, differentiating humans simply by using his genetic toolkit to set man's gene expression to reflect "God's image" with divine attributes.

"Increasing scientific evidence reveals that genetic similarity has no bearing on the biological and behavioral disparity between humans and chimpanzees. Instead, what matters is the way genes are used (gene expression)."

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Design or Non-Design, finally we know, Darwin's Doubt

by QC in

jw
friends

if you want to read the definitive explanation on fossils and how life arrived its covered in darwins doubt, by s.c. meyer.

this is a game changer.

the bomb!.

QC

Here is a Socrates In The City (“The unexamined life is not worth living” forum) interview by author Eric Metaxas

In the subterranean scientific academy unknown to the public, there is descent among a network of scientist, peer reviewed papers are being written with new theories, abandoning Evolution theory with better robust hypothesis to better address the complexity found in life.

There are cracks in the Evolution dam!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EmaLTaY6fA&feature=youtube_gdata (starts 11 minutes in)

Also access info at this vimeo link: http://vimeo.com/81215936

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Giant thread of convince-me-not-to-be-a-theist

by DS211 in

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if you could teach me one thing to convince me not to believe what would it be?

for instance what has the wt taught about evolution/science or mans existence that is wrong and could possibly change skmeones mind?

and the more important question, why is it a creator couldnt allow for species to evolve?

QC

adam: Einstein's use of words like "religion" and "God" wasn't the same as yours [Tammy]..."Spinoza's God" meant to Einstein...deist.

We agree Einstein did not believe in a personal God e.g. a religious denomination with prayers, ritual, dogma, etc. What's important here is he was not like you, an atheist.

Einstein believed there is a transcendent God principle responsible the order in the universe:

"I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist.”
"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views."
"I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details."
“Everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe — a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble."
“There is no logical way to the discovery of elemental laws. There is only the way of intuition, which is helped by a feeling for the order lying behind the appearance.”
“What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling."
"The scientists’ religious feeling takes the form of a rapturous amazement at the harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection."
"When the solution is simple, God is answering."
—Einstein

So, Einstein shares Tammy's world view in this sense, a "cause and effect" God principle, a first cause (not a religion) , is the reason order exist in the universe.

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Maintaining Faith In God As An Ex-JW

by pronomono in

as i fade further from the jws, i'm finding it increasingly hard to maintain faith in god.

i've been exploring many alternatives from atheism, agnostic, apathetic, pagan, and satanism (not devil worship, but the promotion of self-indulgence) to name a few.

i'm thoroughly intrigued to learn how those of you who remained christian managed to maintain your faith in god and christ, especially after enduring all the lies that we've been told about them.

QC

pronomono,

Godlessness with its vitriol is incentive for faith.

Check your PM email.

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Dawkins-The Greatest Show on Earth

by KateWild in

as many may be aware.

i don't like the man.

but i have chosen to review the first chapter of his book.. chapter 1... only a theory?.

QC

Etude: Natural Selection has seen fit to give us something for which we have no need for, namely the concept of a deity.

Yes

I gree, it is not plausible that in a GODLESS universe Natural Selection has seen fit to give us something for which there is no need for, namely the concept of a deity.

Something entirely void of God would have no impulse for God.

Great point.

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god-of-the-gaps. Should we or shouldn't we fiil in the gaps with God?

by KateWild in

science imo does not have all the answers.

when i discover gaps in science, it's easy for me, as a temporary measure to fill in the gaps with god.

i do this until i have learnt something new.. what about you?

QC

admah: Here's a little cartoon which you might (or might not) enjoy:

Posting Guidelines

Insulting, threatening or provoking language
Inciting hatred on the basis of race, religion, gender, nationality or sexuality or other personal characteristic.
Swearing, using hate-speech or making obscene or vulgar comments.

You’re emboldened by the heavy anti-god prejudice on this forum. So you break the rules.

Feeling the need to deploy foul language (break the rules) is really a feeble mind trying to express itself forcefully.

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god-of-the-gaps. Should we or shouldn't we fiil in the gaps with God?

by KateWild in

science imo does not have all the answers.

when i discover gaps in science, it's easy for me, as a temporary measure to fill in the gaps with god.

i do this until i have learnt something new.. what about you?

QC

jgnat: I didn't say that Christians couldn't be scientists.

Never said you did say that.

Your deception is: "god did it", ends inquiry. That’s false!

Believers in God, Christian thinkers (read the list) fascinated with HOW “God did it” (create nature and the universe), is the reason we have the "Age of "Enlightenment", also known as MODERN SCIENCE.

The greatest scientist ever, Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein, were fascinated and driven to know how “God did it” (create the magnificent universe).

Both were driven by belief in God.

That's the point!

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god-of-the-gaps. Should we or shouldn't we fiil in the gaps with God?

by KateWild in

science imo does not have all the answers.

when i discover gaps in science, it's easy for me, as a temporary measure to fill in the gaps with god.

i do this until i have learnt something new.. what about you?

QC

cofty, cant, Captain O: Einstein most certainly did NOT believe in god.

Wrong! Einstein didn’t believe in a PERSONAL god, but he did believe there is a god (Spinoza’s God)

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly." —Einstein
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings." —Einstein

He was NOT an atheist.

"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views." —Einstein
"I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist.” —Einstein

cofty, cant, jgnat: Filling in the gaps with "god did it" ends inquiry.

Silly argument!

Pagan thinker’s world view felt God is in nature, various aspect of nature represent various Gods (Pantheism). No need to explore or discover.

Christian thinker’s world view is, God is outside of nature. Christians innate curiosity compels them to explore (like the history of explorers), ‘let’s explore and discover God’s creation handiwork.'

Entire MODERN SCIENCE, “the scientific revolution…age of enlightenment”, came out of CHRISTIANITY's inquiring minds, thinkers.

Nicolaus Copernicus (1473–1543)
Michael Servetus (1511–1553)
Ignazio Danti (1536–1586)
Galileo Galilei (1564–1642)
René Descartes (1596–1650)
Juan Lobkowitz (1606–1682)
John Wallis (1616–1703)
Blaise Pascal (1623–1662)
Nicolas Steno (1638–1686)
Isaac Newton (1643–172)
Stephen Hales (1677–1761)
Colin Maclaurin (1698–1746)
Carolus Linnaeus (1707–1778)
Antoine Lavoisier (1743–1794)
Luigi Galvani (1737–1798)
Maria Gaetana Agnesi (1718–1799)
Leonhard Euler (1707–1783)
Alessandro Volta (1745–1827)
Andre Marie Ampere (1775–1836)
Louis Pasteur (1822–1895)
Guglielmo Marconi (1874-1937)
Georges Lemaître (1894–1966)

(Just to name a few)

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my disassociation letter

by unstopableravens in

dear elders at%^** congregation, november 1, 2013. .

as you know ive been a member of your congregation for many years.

throughout the last several years i have had the opportunity to get to know many of you personally and i can truly say i have love for all of you.

QC

Unstop,

I agree Jesus is not Michael.

Lu 10:17 The seventy returned with joy, saying, "Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.

18 “I[Jesus on Earth c. 30-33 C.E.] was watching Satan fall from heaven like lightning.”

19 “Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing will injure you.”

Re 12:7 “And there was war in heaven [c. 30-33 C.E.]: Michael [archangel] and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,”

8 “And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.”

9 “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”

And, I agree ALL disciple of Jesus are "born anew" into the family of Jesus.

But I can’t go with you to the 4th century.

There is a caveat there.