Basically to suffer suffer suffer to your death and be told your whole life you are a terrible and worthless person whom would be better off dead.
Morbid? I know. Reality? Fact.
I am a realist so suck it. 😄
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
Basically to suffer suffer suffer to your death and be told your whole life you are a terrible and worthless person whom would be better off dead.
Morbid? I know. Reality? Fact.
I am a realist so suck it. 😄
i have always been told as a jw that trinitarians, particularly baptists, are just the worst people to argue with out in service.
i have always been told it was the world with a veil over their eyes.
the hypocritical irony is that so many witnesses are completely stubborn and willing to believe in magic before they believe anything against their dogma.
Arguing with anyone about religion in my experience has always led to the boot out the door, including JWs. Soooo yea, that's what I got for you m8. 😅
what was it in the evolution of religion that got them so hung up about what people do with their genitalia?.
i mean, the (mis)use of genitalia is up there with murdering another human being in terms of badness.. and in the 21st century, we have a situation where in the jw religion, it's deemed as acceptable for three middle aged/old men to sit a teenage girl down and ask her the details of her use of her genitals.
to any normal person this is intrusive, completely inappropriate and bordering on deviancy.. why they so obsessed?.
Well it was originally meant to keep society from falling apart like do today i.e. single parent homes, poverty on a grand scale, ironically enough to prevent pedos from having access to young kids, and preventing the spread of sexual diseases.
And it is very innapropriate without other women present during whatever they are discussing is on topic, whether it's from the simplist things to sexuality in any private situation. I would even say those elders are pedos in disguise.
Overall I would say you can't blame them for wanting to promote healthy relationships, but nevertheless, the way they do it according to what you stated would be completely stupid and even borderline insane.
Hope this helps.
ALPD
i think we can see that the further we proceed into the future the more criminal this organization looks due to man's more evolved social understanding,, so since this thing is gradual i'm predicting that this evolution will exterminate this cult with a capital fuck you.. since this is a religion that has exported itself(criminal activity) all over the world from usa origins i would expect the usa court system not to come to their aid when reach lawsuits come reaching from all over the world to usa based headquarters living there situated on a contaminated chemical dump site (whether it is properly been clean up it is anybody's guess (i'm guessing not))..
Let's see here... The GB drives around in brand new Cadillacs just like the old 'leaders' back during the depression. And our economy is even worse off now. That and they eat like Caesar Augustus and couldn't be bothered to pay their employees a decent wage, but eat the most exquisite delicicasies and never clean their own laundry for f_ck sakes. Lmao ever heard of slavery? Yea they are slave drives. *whip*
i have a wife that literally cleans the house 24 7. it's hard on our marriage, our son has no natural affection for her.
if we go to an assembly she literally spends two days waxing and polishing the car.
she hand washes all the clothes before go into the washing machine because no machine could ever do as good a job as her.
I say calm the hell down. At least you have a wife. Most girls nowadays are so loose they would make a pornstar blush. Let alone would they ever pick up a pot or pan and cook something, or heaven forbid use a sponge to clean something. And wax your car??? Dammmm you guys must be Rollin in it. Can't even afford to purchase a car wash here lmao. I say calm down and let her be. U don't know what you have until you lose it (her in this case).
below is just a list that i will continue to reference for myself while defending myself against the jw's when the time comes, which is pretty much every day.
nevertheless, if you would like to continue on with the list i have provided feel free, or if you would like to read it feel free as well!
i will continue to post more as i learn more and or remember stuff i forgot to post originally and hope this can help anyone else that is feeling similar to me.. 1.beards, get over it cry babies.
Below is just a list that I will continue to reference for myself while defending myself against the JW's when the time comes, which is pretty much every day. Nevertheless, if you would like to continue on with the list I have provided feel free, or if you would like to read it feel free as well! I will continue to post more as I learn more and or remember stuff I forgot to post originally and hope this can help anyone else that is feeling similar to me.
1.Beards, get over it cry babies. Jesus had one, and it's a naturally occurring thing because God created us to have them. Annnnddddddd this is hush hush, but for most jobs people want you to not have a beard and be 'acceptable' in the job field. So wouldn't not having a beard make you fit in with the world and make you further indistinguishable with the 'worldy' people? This is such a stupid topic anyways, but just saying.
2.End of the day trilogy (lol). False profits will arise saying look here and there and that's exactly what the JW's have been doing for over a hundred years. The world ends in 1914,1917,1925, blablabla. Sure the world may end some day, and still believing in the bible myself, but we don't know and can't know ie. thief in the night.
3.Ruling just as the world does ie. Lording it over. The JW's act just like any other professional establishment (walmart, catholic church, etc.) and the rich are the elders and so is the governing body. The poor is the subjects and they have no say. Reference to the days when you had to 'pay' the catholic church to get into heaven (lmao).
4.Suicide/mental illness. Every single time I study with the witnesses I become extremely suicidal and can't even complete daily tasks such as brushing my teeth. Soooo I would rather be homeless and alive instead of thinking how to kill myself every day and worrying I will not be forgiven.
5.Cliques. Just like in the real world, in the kingdom halls there are cliques everywhere. You don't fit in, you're on the outside. You don't have enough money to go out to eat or drive somewhere, you are an outcast. You believe you should actually believe to be called on during a meeting while the elder in charge is giving service distrusts you, though has never had more than a 30 second conversation with you; ignored. You want to hangout with someone, they are busy 24/7 and don't have time for your measly presence. Don't forsake your gathering where everyone makes you feel like stepped on gum on the bottom of their shoes kids! :D
6.Challenging ideology. Nobody can challenge anything whatsoever, they are right 100% unless the GB decides to make a change. They profess to be Jesus Christ basically, though have absolutely 0 contact with their professed god and make mistakes and corrections constantly ie. the light gets brighter. Nooooo, the bright would always be light you nimrods.
7.Truth, NOT. They claim to be the only true religion because they are the only ones going door to door, use God's name; everyone else is doomed muahhahaa! Really.... Mormons go door to door still, despite it only being for a few years. The Catholics back during the medieval days and etc. were the ones who truly spread Christianity all across the world. Nice try JW's... There are many other 'Cults' that use the name Yahweh/Jehovah: House of Yahweh, 7th day Adventists, yadayada. The witnesses didn't even come about until the early 1900's and that leaves oh idk almost 2000 years of people of God abandoning them then?? I don't think so stupid ones.
8.Only JW's saved when Jesus returns. Please piss off. So all the unborn babies and the mentally disabled killed during Armageddon won't have a chance. Ever heard of life for a life for an unborn baby being killed/injured in the womb? And if a god won't allow the mentally disabled to have a chance of an actual good life, then I don't want to worship that god anyways.
9.Studying by yourself. Oh no! >:) If you read the bible by yourself you will come to all kinds of crazy conclusions like the trinity! Never believed in the trinity anyways... And God really provided a book that was only able to be studied in the past 70 years or so to come to a proper understanding... Nah I will pass bro, good try tho. Also, then why was the bible around for more than 1500 years and the Catholics were the ones deleting and adding what books they wanted to be in the bible...? Hmmmmmmm.
10.Conditional Love. You make one mistake or disagree with one thing and that's it! Bag your sh*t up and gtfo you mofo apostate hypocrite.... I never was baptized for one. Second, if you have all these rules and stipulations and really could care less about my well being unless I am your slave (sounds like work in the 'world' lol), then I don't want to be loved by you anyways, but good on you sir! I would always love my children and take care of them no matter what if I ever had any. Third, my own blood family won't ever try and take care of me and neither would you? Lol, this religion is so much better than the world...not.
11.Blood. Yes abstain from eating blood, it is sacred to God and carries a LOT of diseases. That's why you don't eat the liver of animals, hello! And you used to say organ transplanting was cannibalistic. Oh, that's why God made Eve with a rib of Adam (that had blood marrow where your blood is made, so evil tisk tisk). So gimme that blood transfusion if I need one please and ty baby!
12.Research. Don't look anywhere but what the Watchtower organization puts out to learn correctly. Nah brah, imma keep looking and searching and seeing if I am in the true faith, irregardless where I get the information, so as to ensure I am not abandoned in Gehenna for eternity.
Signed: Sincerely yours,
A bible student for 10 years you tried to fk up in the head and literally imprison(never forgetting this but moving on to find a better path in my life to follow).
And yes, 1+1 does = 2 no matter how much to try and twist and piss around with it. Just saying.
i have a beard.
i spend a month on vacation with no worry from the congregation overseas of course.
i grew a full beard now and with glasses i finally have posted my picture on facebook og me... next to half life 2 cover showing i look like gordan freeman lol.
Jesus had a beard. So yup. 😇
the wts has always included minors and adults in the same categories - publisher and baptized.. i am interested in knowing how many minors, approximately, are included in the publisher count.
and, at what age a person started publishing.
what age was the youngest publisher reported?.
Publisher at _. Baptized at_. Never made it that far studying for almost 10 years lol. Let's just say I wasn't well-liked and my beliefs were 'different'.
so i know one should remove his own stick from his own eye before ones self judges another, but i noticed something.
it seems that the wealthy witnesses are the elders, the circuit overseers, the governing body... are they really different from any other 'worldly' religions or even organizations?
i mean look at the jewels the friggen pope wears.
So I know one should remove his own stick from his own eye before ones self judges another, but I noticed something. It seems that the wealthy Witnesses are the elders, the circuit overseers, the governing body... Are they really different from any other 'worldly' religions or even organizations? I mean look at the jewels the friggen pope wears. And the GB, they get first class dining day in and day out and Barkley pay those that do their laundry and are awstricken just by having seen them. Kinda reminds me of a place called North Korea...
But getting back on track here. I know an elder at the congregation I used to attend, before getting banned and never having been a witness myself but having studied a lot, I find this odd about him. He has a house worth at least a million dollars, majorly expensive vehicles, his kids get the best 'worldly' education (isn't that frowned upon???!?!?) and drive around in nothing less than the best. Now if I remember correctly Matthew the tax collecter gave everything he had to the congregation and stopped living a luxurious life. John the Baptist, the most righteous imperfect man to have ever exhisted ate honey and berries and lived in the wilderness hated by the wealthy Pharisees. Then there is Jesus, God's only begotten son who never even owned his own house and slept outside and had next to nothing extravagant but the basics to live in his preaching. And we are supposed to follow these God-like mortals that have literally no extra contact with the Ancient of days? I mean sure there was King David, Joseph, and Moses who lived in wealth for a time. But they all lived under the Law before Jesus came and it was a totally different time period. I guess all I am saying is 1John 2:15, James 2:5, Matthew 6:24, 1John 3:17...must I really go on.
If anyone has anything to add or to say feel free to comment but beware! I will read your comment. c:
so i know one should remove his own stick from his own eye before ones self judges another, but i noticed something.
it seems that the wealthy witnesses are the elders, the circuit overseers, the governing body... are they really different from any other 'worldly' religions or even organizations?
i mean look at the jewels the friggen pope wears.
So I know one should remove his own stick from his own eye before ones self judges another, but I noticed something. It seems that the wealthy Witnesses are the elders, the circuit overseers, the governing body... Are they really different from any other 'worldly' religions or even organizations? I mean look at the jewels the friggen pope wears. And the GB, they get first class dining day in and day out and Barkley pay those that do their laundry and are awstricken just by having seen them. Kinda reminds me of a place called North Korea...
But getting back on track here. I know an elder at the congregation I used to attend, before getting banned and never having been a witness myself but having studied a lot, I find this odd about him. He has a house worth at least a million dollars, majorly expensive vehicles, his kids get the best 'worldly' education (isn't that frowned upon???!?!?) and drive around in nothing less than the best. Now if I remember correctly Matthew the tax collecter gave everything he had to the congregation and stopped living a luxurious life. John the Baptist, the most righteous imperfect man to have ever exhisted ate honey and berries and lived in the wilderness hated by the wealthy Pharisees. Then there is Jesus, God's only begotten son who never even owned his own house and slept outside and had next to nothing extravagant but the basics to live in his preaching. And we are supposed to follow these God-like mortals that have literally no extra contact with the Ancient of days? I mean sure there was King David, Joseph, and Moses who lived in wealth for a time. But they all lived under the Law before Jesus came and it was a totally different time period. I guess all I am saying is 1John 2:15, James 2:5, Matthew 6:24, 1John 3:17...must I really go on.
If anyone has anything to add or to say feel free to comment but beware! I will read your comment. 😀👌