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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

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  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  ElderBerry

  SadElder it’s not clear if they still claim that Jesus was enthroned in 1914, maybe they still claim that but he is taking 110years to actually sit on the thrown that he was enthroned on😂
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  ElderBerry

  If it actually happens it will be interesting to see how he responds to the many questions about sex workers?

  Unless all the questions about sex workers are considered spam and are being deleted?

  Last time he was asked on Andrew Gold interview he just said something “of course the main reason I went to Thailand was to meet sex workers”

  He said it in a sarcastic way but of course it’s the truth, what will he this time?
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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  ElderBerry

  It’s hilarious but it really is the new JW teaching.

  There is so much wrong with it before the thing about he was enthroned but not yet sat on the throne 110 years later. How can you be enthroned but not yet sat on the throne 110years later?

  For a start there is no 2nd greater fulfilment of the 7 times prophecy. That was just about Nebuchadnezzar living like a beast for 7 years. William Miller made a stupid theory about it and JW went even further with Millers theory and made it even more stupid.

  Then there is the confusion over 607, Nebuchadnezzar wasn’t even king until after this so how could he have destroyed Jerusalem then? It was 20yrs later 587.

  Then when you think about how they got from 607 to 1914 in the first place it has nothing by to do with a second fulfilment of Nebuchadnezzar living like a beast for seven years.

  The most absurd thing is that millions of JWs have trusted the men who claim all this is true. It such a huge mass mind deception.

  For those who wonder if this was a little trail to test the waters but still having the option to backpedal, I don’t think the men at the top are clever enough to even devise a plan so sophisticated.

  So will this regional convention be the same all around the world? I didn’t know it started in January? I wonder when the first English language version of that talk will be? And to those in Bethel who read these pages, will you consider changing that outline due to the confusion of Jesus having been enthroned in 1914 but not yet sat in the throne 110yrs later
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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  ElderBerry

  It’s a soft new light that Jesus never sat on his throne in 1914 but at the moment the vague notion that he was still enthroned in 1914 is still there but according to JW land he has taken 110 years to actually sit down, basically he was enthroned standing up.

  his bum hasn’t touch the seat yet but he was enthroned 110 years ago before his bum touched the seat part of the thrown.

  it must hurt his knees 110 years since he was enthroned but he hasn’t quite taken the weight of his legs yet even though his bum is very close to sitting on the throne.

  yes this is what JWs are saying.

  So many JW brothers have got into the habit of closing prayers with “through the name of our enthroned king Jesus Christ” so can they still say that after this talk or should it be changed to “through the name of our soon to be enthroned king Jesus Christ”

  which one?
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  Hotels for convention

  by ElderBerry in

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  a department in bethel wants to try to make money from regional conventions by asking local hotels if they will give a special rate and a coupon code to give to jws.. .

  they should just keep it simple and not be greedy for dishonest gain.. .

  this year some convention sites the hotels said no thank you i think the jws are going to book with us anyway.

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  ElderBerry

  The situation is different today even if someone dobbed in the naughty witnesses for going against direction, it doesn’t seem to matter these days.

  Look how many are going against direction by not keep getting the vaccine anymore to stay fully vaccinated.

  Most JWs think for themselves these days and won’t follow direction without thinking it through themselves. What are the elders going to do if publishers don’t go and get a vaccine or don’t go and stay in the expensive hotels they want them to?
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  Hotels for convention

  by ElderBerry in

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  a department in bethel wants to try to make money from regional conventions by asking local hotels if they will give a special rate and a coupon code to give to jws.. .

  they should just keep it simple and not be greedy for dishonest gain.. .

  this year some convention sites the hotels said no thank you i think the jws are going to book with us anyway.

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  ElderBerry

  I wonder if those who are staying at the banned hotels will be shocked it’s full of other naughty witnesses

  thry may have thought they are the only ones🤣
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  Geoffrey Jackson goatiegate Part 2

  by Tahoe in

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  from ske graduation this past weekend.

  (sent from a pimi).

  from ske on zoom: .

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  ElderBerry

  I never thought goatie would be acceptable when they said beards were allowed

  all the pictures they showed were proper full beards

  now if anyone criticises a beard they can just tell them look the Br Jackson
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  Hotels for convention

  by ElderBerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a department in bethel wants to try to make money from regional conventions by asking local hotels if they will give a special rate and a coupon code to give to jws.. .

  they should just keep it simple and not be greedy for dishonest gain.. .

  this year some convention sites the hotels said no thank you i think the jws are going to book with us anyway.

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  ElderBerry

  Bethel definitely make a profit. They are not doing it to help anyone they are doing it for financial gain.

  The hotels they want you to pay for are more expensive and further away. They are making it more difficult
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  Hotels for convention

  by ElderBerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a department in bethel wants to try to make money from regional conventions by asking local hotels if they will give a special rate and a coupon code to give to jws.. .

  they should just keep it simple and not be greedy for dishonest gain.. .

  this year some convention sites the hotels said no thank you i think the jws are going to book with us anyway.

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  ElderBerry

  The Hotels were right when they said they feel that delegates will book the hotel regardless.

  That is exactly what has happened.

  This is a classic example of the sea change that rank and file are slowly becoming JWlite and ignoring direction if they don’t agree
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  Hotels for convention

  by ElderBerry in

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  2. beliefs

  a department in bethel wants to try to make money from regional conventions by asking local hotels if they will give a special rate and a coupon code to give to jws.. .

  they should just keep it simple and not be greedy for dishonest gain.. .

  this year some convention sites the hotels said no thank you i think the jws are going to book with us anyway.

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  ElderBerry

  Dear Brothers and Sisters,

  As a committee we send you our warm greetings as we look forward to the ‘Declare the Good News’ Regional Convention in 2024. More information will follow in the coming months, but in the meantime we wish to draw your attention to the following.

  As in previous years, the branch has negotiated competitive rates at many of the hotels for the convention weekends. Unfortunately, the onsite hotels are unwilling to negotiate and offer competitive rates as they believe that delegates will book the hotel regardless.

  Therefore, please support these arrangements by only selecting hotels recommended from the approved hotels listed. This will strengthen the negotiating power of the organisation for future conventions.

  May we take this opportunity to thank you all for your cooperation.

  Warm Christian love,