Posts by ElderBerry

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What the new JW light position really is 👍

by ElderBerry in

i’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.

as my fellow elders are.

we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.

ElderBerry

It’s just the same in many other religions there are many who do Not believe it is true

Most Muslims do not believe all they are told about their religion

The same is true for most Hindus and Buddhists

It’s actually the same with most sects Of the Christian type of faith

They don’t entirely believe all of it perhaps they think some of it might be true that would be nice but they don’t believe all that they are told

The modern JW light way is exactly that it would be nice if the JW doctrines have some truth to them but they probably don’t

But we all do not know what the whole truth is nobody knows maybe evolution is the truth or something like it I don’t know

All I know is having a bit of a faith to base one’s life on in my opinion is better than having nothing

If you’re going to have a bit of a faith, then being JW light is one good option but there are many other good options. You have to choose something that really suits you.

JW light suits a lot of people with all the changes lately

It’s now easier than ever. There’s no real sacrifice and no real obligations just all the good things.

It’s also very interesting to see how many more changes they will be in the future

The blood doctrine for example seems to be getting a lot lighter compared to in the past

I think most people choose to say they want bloodless surgery because you get slightly better quality of healthcare the surgeon cannot be sloppy if he thinks he can just put more blood in

They would rather have the cell saver machine which is brilliant or any of the blood fractions are okay in an extremely unusual situation where you would die without any other main parts of blood. I think most witnesses would decide to have it but wait until the very end rather than die, but you do get better quality healthcare without having blood Possibility. The surgeons have to take much better care of you if they have it on the file that you require bloodless surgery.

The worst that could ever happen is you might get a 90 day rest from being a witness but then the elders beg you to come back

When it comes to birthdays these days there seems to be a much more lightened tone all round young people having their 16th 17th 18th birthday party they just call it happy day instead of happy birthday they may have it not out on the actual day but a couple of days either side just have a coming of age party

Once again the worst that could ever happen you might get a 90 day sanction and a wrist from being a witness but then the eldest will beg you to come back and the new way is they beg you not to have a 90 day sanction they do everything they can for you to just say The right things so you don’t need To have the 90 day sanction

This is true of every other rule or doctrine the worst that could ever happen is you get a 90 day sanction and during that time you could still come to meetings people will still talk to you. It’s not like before.

There is no such thing as being this fellowship anymore only a 90 day sanction and during that time people will still talk to you at the Hall anyway and then you’ll get twice as much love bombing after the 90 days when the sanctions are lifted and you’ll get invited out much more and love bombed and people do everything they can to help you

But this is true wherever you are in the congregation we all help each other. This is what Jesus wanted.

Being JW like these days has many advantages even if you don’t believe JW doctrine is still nice to be part of the congregation for the social benefits

There are many on here who would never consider going back and that’s fine but there are many who used to be a JW and they don’t know how much things have actually changed

There are many XJW who are very lonely. They blame all their problems on the governing body.

Maybe what they need is to go back in and b JW light and then you would have your family and friends back. You’d be loved bombed you’d be invited out a lot and you could be honest with them and say that I don’t agree with everything but I like the Bible and I like the sound of the promises in the Bible. There’s nothing wrong with that.

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What the new JW light position really is 👍

by ElderBerry in

i’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.

as my fellow elders are.

we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.

ElderBerry

Elderberry, Im interested to know if the amount of overall hours has declined since the need to no longer report.
What is the turn-out like at meetings for field service?

it’s absolutely the case that overall hours decline 📉

We all look forward to Saturday ministry group. Good friends getting together for encouragement. It’s just an excuse to meet up and feel like you are doing something good that Jesus told us to do. But we only do ten mins max.

Then coffee break either at a cafe or someone’s home. Take it in turns. Then lots of meetings for min at other times of the week often ending with meet ups and this brings the congregation closer

its all much easier now. Just support and kindness from the friends in the cong

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What the new JW light position really is 👍

by ElderBerry in

i’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.

as my fellow elders are.

we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.

ElderBerry

I’m still an elder and I consider myself JW light. As my fellow elders are. We don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days. We know a lot of stuff goes on in the congregation that in the past would have been a talk in the back room. But these days we ask do you want the elders to have a chat about this? If they say no then that’s the end of it. If they say yes then we just want to be good friends and see if we can help at all.

if it I a judicial matter then the elders have to do everything possible to get them to stay in the cong. The worst that could happen is a 90 day rest and then the elders do everything to get them to return.

It’s actually very easy being an elder these days. You could turn upto any meeting with zero preparation and give any item. It’s all done for you there is no thinking required anymore.

so much has changed over the last few years. Even the most devoted are now what JW light was years ago, and the real new JW light brigade are now properly JW light. They do shadow birthday celebrations and ignore most of the directions from the fat old men in upstate NY.

Ministry groups are just social get togethers, an excuse to meet up and ‘go on the territory’ park witnessing or street witnessing for ten mins then back for coffee break.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

ElderBerry

Looks like Lardy boy finally got hold of leaked elders school as usual long time after all the other apostate channels have already done commentary videos.

I noticed he repeats and steals the best points from others who were ahead of him. Then he seems to get the credit even though he is always the last to talk about these things.

also noticed his bitter jealousy when talking about these happy couple in the leaked videos. He keeps saying the brother only just started ironing his own shirts, this is very telling. Are you lonely Lardy boy? Are you bitter that you don’t have a woman to iron your shirts anymore? Come on we all know you read this thread.

maybe you shouldn’t have betrayed your family with sex workers and maybe you shouldn’t have been sexting underage girls?????

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

ElderBerry

He was taking pics of himself solo hiking in Slovenia. It was pitiful. Had the emotional heft of a Texan vlogging a weekend trip to Tulsa. In his latest pic he dyed his hair black and was using the iconic “keep calm and carry on” with a British flag emoji. People were speculating in the comments that he may be in the UK, but it looked like he was in that attic flat. Almost like he just remembered he was British and he wants to get the fuck out of there NOW.

Yes lots pointing to him coming back to the UK. He basically said his girls don’t need him anymore like he is abandoning them. Not that he would win any prize for what a great father and husband was for his family

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Just because Jehovah had to prove His Right To Rule? I don't think so!

by liam in

we get old because jehovah had to prove to all the angels that his way of ruling was the best?

that's the sorriest argument the watchtower has come up with.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/11hz_jqjkjo.

ElderBerry

Why did Adam attempt to defend himself, by blaming Eve?

A complete "clueless", as you described him, would have indeed been confused as to why God was asking him to explain himself.

Who remembers the story of the Blue Lagoon? It’s two young children surviving a ship wreck on a desert paradise island.

shipwrecked on an uninhabited tropical island, who eventually fall in love when they become teenagers (a tale not far removed from Adam and Eve in paradise

everyone agrees they are a bit like Adam and Eve just have to figure things out for themselves

a bit like the rest of humanity in that we only understand a fraction of the Bible and if there is a God then what was his purpose. Whoever wrote Genesis what did they want the readers to think?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

jw
friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

ElderBerry

Is it possible for anyone to see his ex wife social media? Do the girls have a new step dad? Is he a JW?

if she did go back into the truth could she stop the girls seeing the apostate dad?

Is this what Lloyd was talking about in his drug rambling video?

He actually says the words that his daughters dont need him so much

Maybe that is his way of saying that he doesn't want to bother with them anymore, or support them financially. Maybe that is why he feels trapped-- it's an expensive responsibility, and he's not exactly a shining example of a responsible husband/father.

How long before the girls get a letter full of accusations and gaslighting? Stay tuned!

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King of the North / South predictions

by Gorb in

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during my jw.org lifetime since 1970 (2008 we faded out of it all) i read and heared a lot of the king of the north and the south.. but about an aliance between the two kings, that was not a jw.org scenario, wasn't it?.

g..

ElderBerry

WT predictions always proved true Russia and their allies were North USA/UK were king of south

now Trump&Putin have a bromance going on and UK is siding with Europe and Ukraine

new light needed?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

ElderBerry

His latest video he gets all mixed up trying to say he doesn’t believe the Bible and it’s no good but then even admits the obvious contradiction here by saying he is going to try to derive benefit from it??????

then he tries to twist the Good Samaritan against JWs saying the Samaritan was apostate and that according to Lardy JWs wouldn’t help the beaten man or something????? I’m certain JWs would help the beaten man every single time even if he was an apostate like Lardy. They just would not listen to a word he says once he gained consciousness 🤣

it doesn’t make any sense??????

did anyone else get the feeling that Lardy boy has completely lost it? He contradicts himself over and over. Anyone asking themselves would come to the true conclusion that it’s obvious that Lardy boy is wrong to claim JWs wouldn’t help the beaten man even if he was apostate but that wasn’t even clear what Lard was saying.

I think he was saying the beaten up man was the JW and the Good Samaritan was the apostate (but Samaritans were never Jews) either way it makes no sense whatsoever!

is this common with people who do lots of drugs and shrooms?

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Need a laugh? JW Comedy Show "Everyone else burns" now available online and on ROKU.

by Balaamsass2 in

if you need a laugh about jws, this comedy show is finally available outside the uk.

on roku or your streaming device.

https://www.cwtv.com/shows/everyone-else-burns/episode-1/?play=21dd96c6-83e2-4497-8fef-56897a78f455&utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=google_kp_watch.

ElderBerry

Here is an interview with the creators

https://youtu.be/-r0O4GN-OqU