Like 2+2=5 said: 1914 isn't mentioned with the same frequency like it was some 40, 30 or 20 years before. Spiritual food has become a watery milk soup these days, just enough to remember the dubs, that the GB is the Boss. None of the dubs could digest franzlike bible-chronology anymore. So 1914 more and more will become a shade, once in a while brought up, but never explained or justified. Till that day the GB sees themself forced to set another date, because the end has the effrontery to not show up. In 20 + years I assume.
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How many decades/centuries before 1914 becomes irrelevant?
by jwfacts inhow long do you think the watchtower can speak about 1914 and have followers think it relevant?
i think for people born in the 1900's, it feels like an acceptable year.
but what about those born since 2000, will 1914 seem like a year of relevance?
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The Open Society And Its Enemies - Karl Popper
by yadda yadda 2 inone of the greatest philosophical books of the last century on the social sciences, and very readable.
is very relevant for persons escaping the authoritarianism of the watchtower organisation who is aware of the dangers of subjection of the individual to a collective ideology, by one of the 20th century's greatest philosopher's, karl popper.
fascinating holiday reading for the more intellectual reader who is bored with trashy novels.
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Borges
Great book! A must read for everyone who is interested in philosophy and science.
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I'm 40 attended and 7 missed DCs old.
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First public talk as an "apostate"
by Borges ini gave a lot of talks as a jw.
beeing the only elder in a cong for almost three years, i've been on the platform at every meeting (also at ca and dc).
but thats long ago.
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Borges
Hi everyone,
thanks for your comments!
Mr. Falcon - "What point of counsel are you working on?"
The one that wasn't on the counsel-slip : SPEAKING THE TRUTH
problemaddict - "So what will you discuss that you think will resonate with your audience and get them to write about you?"
I don't want anybody to write about me (I'm doing this by myself already). This meeting is about information and is one of the many attempts to draw the attention of the public to the damages cults are doing. And I've got some first hand experiences to share.
BtheE - "You can finally put all that public speaking training to good use."
Yeah, finally. That's btw one thing I really appreciate regarding my jw-past. Little Borges gave his first Bible-Reading when he was six years old. So reading or speaking in front of an audience is nothing that fears me.
notjustyet - "Can you get someone to video this and put it on YouTube for us to see?"
Don't know if there will be made videos. But all the parts of this meeting will later be published in print.
I'll keep you informed.
Thanks again to all of you!
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First public talk as an "apostate"
by Borges ini gave a lot of talks as a jw.
beeing the only elder in a cong for almost three years, i've been on the platform at every meeting (also at ca and dc).
but thats long ago.
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I gave a lot of talks as a jw. Beeing the only elder in a cong for almost three years, I've been on the platform at every meeting (also at CA and DC). But thats long ago. Last time, I went on a jw stage was in 2005.
Lots of things happened since then.
Now I've got an invitation to give a talk at a meeting held by an association that is enganged in warning against cults and totalitarian religion groups.
The topic will be: Disengagement from cults - ways, difficulties and consequences. Me and another Ex-JW (someone I knew from my time in german bethel and met once again on a german apostate web-site) will get one hour to speak about our personal experiences leaving the jw cult.
Besides interested audience, there will be journalists, psychologists and authors, who are working on the subject.
It's very exciting and I'm looking forward to.
It'll be fun to be back on the stage - and it'll be strange, too.
There is a saying (hope I put it right): "I became one of the persons, my parents always warned me of." In my case (as an ex-jw, whose whole family is still in), it is true in a very special way.
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Remarkable Statistic - Bible Studies compared to Baptisms
by jwfacts ini am surprised i have not noticed this before, particularly since this is one of the most important statistics, and so have just added the new graphs to watchtower publisher statistics.. the number of bible studies generally trends roughly with the number of publishers on a one to one basis.
however, the number of baptisms has not been rising.
this has resulted in a rapidly falling conversion rate.
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Borges
Wow, that is really remarkable.
Well, you can fake your hours on the report and even the number of bible-studies. But you can't fake a baptism. With these graphs you can see, what's really going on: More and more effort (real or pretended) but the results remain the same - close to insignificant.
Thanks for your work!
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2012 Memorial Partakers--12,604!
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2012 memorial partakers total 12,604.....atlantis
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Borges
Whatever the reasons may be, it is a sign, that more and more of the witnesses feel kind of uncomfortable with their own religion and try to find a way to express their feelings beyond of what they've been told to be appropriate.
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2012 Memorial Partakers--12,604!
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2012 memorial partakers total 12,604.....atlantis
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Borges
Of all the figures and numbers I like this the most. Because it is something that comes from within. It is a cancer growing in the intestines of this religion.
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2012 report analysis - countries with reduced publisher figures
by cedars ini've just started munching through the figures for 2012 in the new 2013 yearbook, now available on jw.org.. i thought you might be interested to see which countries saw "negative growth" over 2012.. these are as follows.... .
*sudan is so dramatically reduced because south sudan is now independent and the society has adjusted the publisher figures accordingly.. .
countries added.
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Borges
Thank you cedars!
I'm happy to see Germany on that list.
BTW, the biggest german news-magazine (DER SPIEGEL) mentioned this week, that JWs in Germany (and Europe in general) have a very low birth-rate compared to other religions. In the article was stated, that fast growing religions are those who align their members to have offspring.
The jw face two problems: Having kids isn't promoted by the watchtower, because they want all the young folks beeing pioneers. And field-service doesn't bring as much new dubs in, as people leave the borg or die.
I wonder, how much longer they will publish the worldwide report.
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Born in, Convert or 1975er?
by Think About It indoes a person's involvement in the jw religion usually fall into one of these 3 categories?.
a) born in.
b) convert.
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Born in, 1967 - 3rd generation.