I don't know the people who are trying to keep in touch with you but perhaps some of them are genuinely concerned about you as a person and not just as a publisher. As a witness they don't have the usually times and methods to keep in touch with old friends -- holidays and birthdays -- so don't assume the worst and if you ignore them they will usually leave you alone.
wisdomfrombelow
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How do I get them to stop houding me?
by lostinthought ini stopped attending all meetings this summer.
i prefer not to be dfed or to da myself.
i just want to be inactive.
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Has anyone else observed how the elderly JWs are neglected?
by Joepublisher1 ini know there are exceptions to this (by good-hearted jws), but has anyone else noticed how some jws (even those who are pios, elders, etc.
) neglect the needs of their elderly parents?
(what i have seen is some jws hiding behind the fact that they are very busy in spiritual matters, too busy, to help their elderly parents with chores around their house, yet they find plenty of time for their own selfish pursuits.
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wisdomfrombelow
If the JWs put equal emphasis on looking after the elderly as they do on their construction projects then their would be no elderly neglected. When they offer pioneers "credit" for doing some activity everyone does whatever it is in lieu of field service. I looked at the tract "Youths - What will you do with your life" which will be in the local needs part next week and there is nothing there about helping the elderly or any others in the congregation. It is all about full-time preaching and makes it seem like a negative if "family obligations limit how much one can do." Unless parents teach their own children differently there is little chance of it ever changing because it will never be advocated from the platform or in the literature.
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Type and Antitype
by wisdomfrombelow ini was looking for july 15th watchtower article today to use the words type and antitype but they didn't.
i wonder when they stopped using those phrases as it seems to be a few years.
who was the person who liked to use that word like the person who loved to use antediluvian?
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wisdomfrombelow
I was looking for July 15th Watchtower article today to use the words type and antitype but they didn't. I wonder when they stopped using those phrases as it seems to be a few years. Who was the person who liked to use that word like the person who loved to use antediluvian? Any ideas?
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The WTBTS-What A Joke!
by JW GoneBad ini found these questions that were part of a theocratic written review for the week of february 24, 2003 that are in need of updating:.
multiple choice: the faithful and discreet slave mentioned by jesus at matthew 24:45-47 is (a) the governing body of jehovahs witnesses; (b) all anointed christians as a group on earth at any given time; (c) jesus christ himself.
back in 2003 the correct answer would have been (b) all anointed christians as a group on earth at any given time.
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wisdomfrombelow
Is The Watchtower just making things up as they go along?
The Watchtower IS just making things up as they go along!
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Former Longtime Elder- Met up with a Former CO,DO
by James Jackson inat a convention recently, i met with don wallace, a former co and do.
he told me he came off the road 6 years ago and is living in scottsboro al.
him and his wife are in their late 70's.
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wisdomfrombelow
I appreciate the experience but I am wish you hadn't put his name there. I just feel it is not necessary to convey the point and could have unforseen consequences. They take a legal vow of poverty and because of that they are usually entitled to keep monetary gifts without paying tax on it. If they choose to save it for later in life that is prudent.
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Former Longtime Elder - Reflections
by James Jackson inthe meetings are getting more boring to me.
some of the elders during their parts just talk and talk and talk about uninteresting things.
boring, boring.
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wisdomfrombelow
And appointed as new Elder in their mid-to-late 20s while stilling living at home with parents or wife's parents
Imagine being in your mid-20s and being no the governing body. That was what Milton Henschel experienced. I reflect back on how things were when Knorr was in office and there were a lot of young circuit and district overseers newly appointed as well. As regards women, I guess in the late 50s they were allowed to join the Theocratic Ministry School. I guess they could easily be allowed to do more non-teaching work the same way if the Governing Body sees a need for change.
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JWStruggle post: Bethel Layoffs Reveal a Kingdom without Clothes
by Londo111 inhttp://www.jwstruggle.com/2013/07/bethel-layoffs-reveal-a-kingdom-without-clothes/.
despite everything, i still have a lingering admiration toward those who serve or have served in bethel.
it is not that i believe it is gods organization in any way, shape, or form.
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wisdomfrombelow
Bethelite's are a religious order who have taken a vow of poverty. Those are the legal terms they agree to. They are not allowed to work outside of Bethel so I consider their situation similar to monks in a monestary or nuns at a convent. Can you imagine lots of those being "let go"? What skills would they have also? In my opinion, the lucky ones got to go home, the unlucky ones got assigned as special pioneers and sent to a remote area with a very tiny stipend. If they complain, they get nothing and without a good recommendation from Headquarters they will have no respect wherever they go to. It is a cold organization and I feel some sadness for them just as I would feel for anyone who took a vow of poverty and went through the same situation. Unfortunately, they probably have no legal recourse.
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JWStruggle post: Bethel Layoffs Reveal a Kingdom without Clothes
by Londo111 inhttp://www.jwstruggle.com/2013/07/bethel-layoffs-reveal-a-kingdom-without-clothes/.
despite everything, i still have a lingering admiration toward those who serve or have served in bethel.
it is not that i believe it is gods organization in any way, shape, or form.
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wisdomfrombelow
It is very sad that they can get kicked out so easily after so many years of service and being told that they are permanent members of the Bethel family after 5 years. I often wonder when they "count the cost" they ever think about the possible end-result. They understand that at any time that their disfellowshipping would mean being kicked out. If they are married, their spouse being disfellowshipped would also mean them getting kicked out. I would hope those "reassigned" would be kind enough to let the young starry-eyed witnesses know the harsh reality of what can happen so at least the future generations won't be so naive but perhaps it would do no good. All the literature and experiences on the platform give only one side and most young people don't think about getting sick or having any other problems due to reaching out.
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Governing Body vs Watchtower Society Directors
by wisdomfrombelow insince the governing body are no longer officers of the watch tower society who has the real power?
can the governing body "fire" officers and have them removed from bethel by their own power or does it have to be done according to whatever legal regulations there are?
with all their subsidiaries, could the watch tower directors "kick out" the governing body from bethel if they so desired?
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wisdomfrombelow
I was merely trying to see who is has the real power. Since the Governing Body no longer are directors I was going to try to understand how things legally are. The Governing Body is dependent on the Watchtower Society for all it's power. If they didn't have the powerful publishing corporation behind it they would have as much power as you and I. Before when they were the directors they were one and the same. Someone previously referred to them as a Judas Goat and if there ever was a power play I can't see how they would win because they legally don't have any power over the corporation.
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Governing Body vs Watchtower Society Directors
by wisdomfrombelow insince the governing body are no longer officers of the watch tower society who has the real power?
can the governing body "fire" officers and have them removed from bethel by their own power or does it have to be done according to whatever legal regulations there are?
with all their subsidiaries, could the watch tower directors "kick out" the governing body from bethel if they so desired?
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wisdomfrombelow
Since the Governing Body are no longer officers of the Watch Tower Society who has the real power? Can the Governing Body "fire" officers and have them removed from Bethel by their own power or does it have to be done according to whatever legal regulations there are? With all their subsidiaries, could the Watch Tower directors "kick out" the Governing Body from Bethel if they so desired? I know it seems very unlikely but recalling how Rutherford came to power makes me wonder where the real power is now and how that relates to the power in the corporation and who ultimately has control over the assets.