Posts by Formerbrother

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

Former brother "What is the JW alternative?"

Well, why not go to the source? The Catholic church gave the world the bible. The Catholic church gave the world the name Jehovah. The Catholic church gave the world schools, hospitals, orphanages, food banks, homeless shelters, old age homes and has shown all people how to love more than just love amongst themselves.

These are all real and true fruits. Name a JW fruit if there is such a thing please.

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Seriously, you are saying the Vatican and the Pope are nearer to the truth than Jw org?

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Changes and why

by Formerbrother in

so far these are all the recent changes i know of, please add more if i have missed anything.. 1. all construction projects have either been stopped or reduced.. 2. all bethels are downsizing by at least 20% within one year of the announcement, and almost certainly more in years to come.. 3. remaining belelites will have to make their own food, do their own washing and cleaning.. no more laundry department, no more kitchen and waiters, no more housekeeping!.

and you still only get 80 per month, but no rent or bills, and food will be provided in the family fridge but you have to prepare it yourself.. as to why, it has been said several times officially its not because of a lack of funds, but how could that possibly be the truth?.

Formerbrother

Per Tony Morris in his U.S. Zone meeting talk, addressing over 1.1 million JW's:

Sister's were warned that a male (brother), age 23 or older. Not currently serving as an MS or Elder. Would NOT make a suitable marriage mate.

So, any brother's over the age of 23 and not a servant, would now be viewed in the congregation in a negative light. Even if he is a nice humble brother, unless he is serving, he is a nothing to the org.

Since this talk, there has been no changes made to Tony's comment. It has become a new policy. This was done to use guilt and peer pressure to get more brother's to reach out!

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Any evidence of this?

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

To answer my original question what is the alternative, it seems that if you boil it down there are only 2.

1 Evolution, the Bible is just another book written by men.

2. There is a creator, and the Bible is his word, but JWs are not the closest, sombody else is the closet to to the truth.

Or is there a 3rd option?

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

What love have you experienced so deeply from them? If you have experienced this unprecedented love, why are you here? I have experienced individual love from them. But as a whole, I have seen that the more intimate JWs get with each other, the more they start to eat each other. All that condescending judgement, pious facade and conditional love really ate at me to the point where there was no alternative other than to puke them out of my life. You can only be a brainless yes-man in that organization for so long, but go ahead and give it a try! Maybe you are the personality type that just loves to lap all that stuff up! Hopefully not.

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When you travel around the world and visit other congregations you soon see this is the only organisation that has love amongst themselves.

No other org has love between balcks and whites, asian, indian whatever, all around the world in all the nations.

If there is another org who does please say it here, maybe I missed one.

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

No, actually we don't. Why force a translation of a name that even Jesus never used? If it was so important to make a modern, hybrid version of the tetragrammaton why didn't Jesus do so in his day? Where is the written record of him using the divine name? Why not just call god "father" or "Lord"? Truth shouldn't have to be forced or manipulated or modernized to fit the agendas of men. If god does indeed exist, then he/she/it knows who he/she/it is no matter what name/title you choose to call he/she/it.

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Interesting, Inever thought of that. Is it true that Jesus never used the divine name?

Well thinking about it I never really use my fathers name, I always refer to him with titles because he is my Dad.

If somebody calls their father by his name then they are not that close to him, more like estranged children call their dad by their name.

Edit: What a load of rubbish, Jesus did use the divine name man many times. for example he said it is Jehovah your God you must worship and him alone,

This is just another example of bitter people making things up.

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Give us more faith WT

by Formerbrother in

what a picture in this sundays wter.

the go bag is there and they have to turn all the lights out and have their meeting in secret.. .

in our congregation we are really being pushed hard to get your go bags in order for every member of the congregation, with at least 3-5 days food and water.. .

Formerbrother

This must be a depiction of what happens when the WTBTS is revealed as a corrupt, real estate selling, market speculating, hedge-fund using, weapons manufacturing co. investing, OSCE associating, Neo-Zionist Communist, pedophile protecting cult.

DD

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Weapon manufacturing?

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Changes and why

by Formerbrother in

so far these are all the recent changes i know of, please add more if i have missed anything.. 1. all construction projects have either been stopped or reduced.. 2. all bethels are downsizing by at least 20% within one year of the announcement, and almost certainly more in years to come.. 3. remaining belelites will have to make their own food, do their own washing and cleaning.. no more laundry department, no more kitchen and waiters, no more housekeeping!.

and you still only get 80 per month, but no rent or bills, and food will be provided in the family fridge but you have to prepare it yourself.. as to why, it has been said several times officially its not because of a lack of funds, but how could that possibly be the truth?.

Formerbrother

Im surprised nobody has posted about one of the largest ew changes, the new reporting system.

So it seems placing literature is not so important anymore, now that we live in a digital age.

We are being pushed to show videos instead. This is the new reporting from next month, just hrs and ANY literature placed in one box and then how many videos you showed in another box.

Big changes for sure.

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Changes to reporting

by Formerbrother in

so it seems placing literature is not so important anymore, now that we live in a digital age.. we are being pushed to show videos instead.

this is the new reporting from next month, just hrs and any literature placed in one box and then how many videos you showed in another box.. bib changes for sure..

Formerbrother

So it seems placing literature is not so important anymore, now that we live in a digital age.

We are being pushed to show videos instead. This is the new reporting from next month, just hrs and ANY literature placed in one box and then how many videos you showed in another box.

Bib changes for sure.

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Give us more faith WT

by Formerbrother in

what a picture in this sundays wter.

the go bag is there and they have to turn all the lights out and have their meeting in secret.. .

in our congregation we are really being pushed hard to get your go bags in order for every member of the congregation, with at least 3-5 days food and water.. .

Formerbrother

In an area where their work is restricted, Jehovah’s Witnesses hold a meeting in a dark basement

What a picture in this Sundays WTer.

The Go bag is there and they have to turn all the lights out and have their meeting in secret.

In our congregation we are really being pushed hard to get your go bags in order for every member of the congregation, with at least 3-5 days food and water.

The local needs about go bags is going to be at least once every year from now on, and more specific details each time.

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Changes and why

by Formerbrother in

so far these are all the recent changes i know of, please add more if i have missed anything.. 1. all construction projects have either been stopped or reduced.. 2. all bethels are downsizing by at least 20% within one year of the announcement, and almost certainly more in years to come.. 3. remaining belelites will have to make their own food, do their own washing and cleaning.. no more laundry department, no more kitchen and waiters, no more housekeeping!.

and you still only get 80 per month, but no rent or bills, and food will be provided in the family fridge but you have to prepare it yourself.. as to why, it has been said several times officially its not because of a lack of funds, but how could that possibly be the truth?.

Formerbrother

So, what does a person DO up at any of those places ? if I remember correctly, there was an announcement made years ago that they were not taking any more applications for persons to go to bethel, so who goes and why if all funding for projects are being cut? for all that matter they never needed printing facilities, they could have paid a company to print stuff up for crying out loud and never built a factory for printing. Ive always been confused by all that whole purpose of that big complex in new york and wallkill

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Its the largest printing organisation on earth, in the most languages by far. They couldnt pay someone to print that much in that many languages, well whoever took on such a large job would need branches as large as all the Bethels around the world.

But since tablets are becoming more widespread, less printed material needs to be printed.

We are encouraged now to be totally paperless at the meetings, songbook bible study material everything on the electronic screen instead of paper.

Thus the cutbacks on printed material and then all the support departments.

Most bethels around the world will just be translating work and the support departments they need, but much smaller now its mostly electronic.