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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

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  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Formerbrother

  Former Brother In whàt way was the Anglican Church debunked ? Because we don't do door to door ? That has been dealt with , it is not necessary to preach in that way . ln fact Jesus said not to do that . You simply cannot let go of JW indoctrination can you ? I wonder what you are trying to achieve on here . You admit problems with the WT , then use it as a yard stick by which to measure other denominations . l think that you are trying to talk yourself back into a KH , but know that there is so much wrong with the org . Jan

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  Jan, where did Jesus say not to preach door to door? I think you will find this is exactly what he wanted. Not just that way, but the last thing he said on earth was Math28:19,20, to go therefor and make disciples of people of all the nations.

  
  

  I do not see the Anglican faith doing this.

  
  

  Which problems do I admit with Jehovah's Witnesses? I admit to imperfect humans making mistakes, but you cant blame Jehovah for this. He has given us all free will, and the option to choose.
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Formerbrother

  Acts5:29 "The watchtower studies the scriptures more than other religions - so until other religions do the same and compete with them, they will probably suit you best "

  I dont want something that suits me best, I want the truth.

  Most people do just want what suits them best, thats why one of these once saved always saved religions suit them best, then they can do what they like be imoral and still think they are saved.

  
  

  The truth from the bible is completely different.
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Formerbrother

  Dear Formerbrother
  

  In my experience, all the answers we seek are wrapped up in the priceless gospel message - aka "the truth of the good news".

  If someone is unable to explain the "good news" according to Paul (and Moses, Isaiah, and Psalms) how can they claim that the "good news" is in their heart and on their lips?

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  Couldnt agree more. The good news of the Kingdom is the theme of the bible, its also what the JWs are the only ones preaching this to all the nations.

  What point are you making? Do you know of anybody else preaching this to all the nations?
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Formerbrother

  Better to stick to the bible, ALL of it. JWs are the only ones who do that. Using the divine name is also key.
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Formerbrother

  l think that l have suggested already try the Anglican church . No good asking for answers then ignoring them !
  

  Jan

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  We debunked the Anglican church and other many pages ago, please have another read and if you still think they are the best alternative, can you please state clearly why they have the truth from the Bible?

  But at least you come out with a clear option, so many other posts just say mumbo jumbo like the truth is within you, or some such nonsense.
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Formerbrother

  Thanks all, but it doesnt answer the question, which option is the best alternative to JWs?
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Formerbrother

  Former Brother, I believe God still cares and provides guidance through the Bible. In the age of literacy, I believe we're responsible for picking up that guidebook and knowing it for ourselves. As I said before, there are alternatives and there isn't one right answer about a place of worship. Contrary to what the Watchtower has said, the truth is not a religion, it's Jesus. His death and more important, His resurrection, save us. It's a gift and not by works (Ephesians 2:8-9).

  Outsider, we are in agreement about everything except from " there isn't one right answer about a place of worship." or all roads lead to God. I just cant see how it doesnt matter to God what you believe or who you follow.

  It has to matter, there has to be one truth from the bible, not different truths many different interpretations that God is pleased with opposing beliefs?

  If Jws are not correct, which I will possibly accept, then which option is the correct option that god is pleased with?

  There has to be one truth, there cant be more than one option. There is no place in the Bible that indicates it doesnt matter if two followers of Jesus teachings have different beliefs about the bible, they are both correct. Think about it.

  So again, which option is there if not JW's?

  Mormons, maybe? One of the 30K so called Christian faiths? If so which one?
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Formerbrother

  Jesus Christ is the alternative to religion
  

  He is the Saviour. Religion is a false substitute.

  Religion cannot save. So don't join a church to get saved.

  Get saved and find others who love Jesus and want to serve him.

  You will find such in many assemblies.

  Stay away from any church or group that claims it is the only church that God approves of or is necessary to follow to gain life everlasting.

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  So on the one hand stay away from others who love Jesus true teachings, and on one hand find others who do love Jesus teachings and get together in assemblies?

  Ummmm I dont get what you are saying?
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Formerbrother

  Trying to find an alternative to JW's. After many years, I still can not find any other option that comes as close to ALL the Bible as JWs do.
  If there is an option that I have missed please tell me here, I would like to look into it deeply.
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Formerbrother

  "I don't believe in god, but neither do I care about evolution." Punk, does this mean you havent decided yet what you believe, or you just dont care?

  Either there was a creator or you believe in chance, evolution?

  What other option is there?

  "I live in the here and now. I survive the moment. How we got here is no longer relevant once the penny dropped that it makes no difference. We'll die. End of. No one will care in 100 years time about who I was."
  

  So we have established that no other organisation comes close to the truth from the bible, or we would have mentioned them clearly by now in this thread.

  So I get the impression that one alternative from JWs is to just not care? Dont think about it too much, maybe the bible is right maybe not. Maybe there is an intelligent creator maybe there isnt?

  This doesnt make any sense to me. At some point in a persons life they wonder what is the purpose of life, why are we here? Why is there so much suffering on Earth?

  The Bible gives truthful answers, but if you dont care if its true or not then you will never get to the truth.