So could somebody sum up in as short as possible,
What is the alternative to JWs?
Formerbrother
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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the idea about Witnesses getting better health care is rubbish . ln the US maybe , l can't comment on that , but in the UK where our National Health Service is under funded and struggling .
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I am in the UK. When my wife was giving birth she lost a lot of blood. After the baby was born she wouldnt stop bleeding, the staff ordered a few bags of blood, then they thought they could take it easy.
I contacted the JW Hospital Liaison Committee and two brothers were at her bedside within the hour. Immediately the standard of health care went up, the JWs made sure of that, they knew exactly what they were talking about, other Doctors were called in and it was made clear that because giving blood was absolutely not an option they had to make her priority, she had the very best medical care to stop the bleeding and high quality care.
If they knew they could just pump more blood into her, then they could have carried on with sloppy medical care, Im sorry but its the truth. JWs get the very best medical care.
Many patients ask the JW H.L.C to help them, but its only for baptised members.
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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OrphanCrow10 hours ago
formerbrother: Please tell me another Church who is involved in this global preaching work?
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Flag Dislike Like+1 / -0TheListener10 hours ago
Yup, Mormons outdo the dubs.
A lot of churches have international missions.
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Yes the mormons as said are the next best at global preaching. But they are not following the Bible much when it comes to anything else.
Which other churches come close to this vast global preaching work that Jesus spoke about? The church of Jesus later day saints is hardly known about at all, they have never called at my door, or many other people around the world. That can not be said of Jws.
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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It is my experiences that the JWs do very little of the bible. They do not do anything scriptural. They have a new testament of Jesus. A false new testament. How do we know? Look at their fruits. Really, look at the fruits. No one can name one JW fruit. Everything in JW doctrine is a copy of catholic teachings. Going door to door with a catholic book [the bible] telling everyone that Jehovah is God's true name [coined by a catholic monk] telling people that they are the biblical authority in prophesy and meaning [with a history of less than 200 years] What are the fruits? If it is from God, there would be fruits.
What's the JW alternative? Try a church has real fruits that have helped billions and billions and billions. Jws have works that have no fruits. NAME A FRUIT, JUST ONE GOOD FRUIT FROM JWs please.
One good fruit, OK how about the FACT that JWs are the only option fulfilling what Jesus said in Matt 24:14 "This good news of the Kingdom will be preached to all the nations"
Please tell me another Church who is involved in this global preaching work? Im surprised it hasnt yet been brought up in this thread, go on which option have we all missed which is also involved in a vast global preaching campaign? Oh thats right there isnt any apart from JWs.
If the Divine name was originally from the Catholics then why did they stop using it? -
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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Hello former Brother. I have not read all the posts here, but asked a similar question some time ago. I find that there is so much that the Watchtower have right, but the there are many things that don't sit right as highlighted on this forum. As a result of this, I have no other choice but to lead a double life. On the one hand, I wish to maintain my faith in God and Jesus Christ; as well as my relationships with family and friends by remaining as one of jehovah's witnesses; yet on the other, I can't agree with some of watchtowers teachings and policies. For example, I celebrate my child's birthday with my born in JW wife (on the quiet of course) as believe this to be a matter of conscience. I buy a mothers day card for my wife as believe this to be harmless. If faced with a life threatening situation on blood, I will allow the medical professionals to do what they need to do to save my life, though blood be used as a very last resort. I prefer to simply call myself a Christian when at work as don't like sectarianising my faith. Christians are the name given to the brothers in the first century by divine providence, as written in the book of Acts.
As a current member, I often write anonymously to the GB in the hope they change some of their policies on matters such as their current shunning policy, child abuse policy, conscientious matters such as the blood issue, celebration of birthdays and so forth.
I believe the pen is mightier than the sword and hope that the GB budge their iron fisted finger on many of their man made rules and policies. I am by no means perfect, and am a sinner like everyone else, but can maintain my spirituality despite everything. I would rather stick with things for now than simply throw the baby out with the bathwater and leave. I wont allow men's rules to destroy my faith, or my relationships with family and friends. I hope you find the answers you are looking for.
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Its not the governing body you need to be writing to, its Jehovah who wrote the bible.
Maybe try writing a letter to Jehovah to see if he will change the bibles clear view on abstaining from blood.
Good luck with that LOL
PS, Most people dont know, but JWs always get the very best medical treatment. If medical staff know they absolutely can not transfuse blood, then they have to give the very best medical care from the start.
If they know you are flexible as you say in your post, then you will not get the same respect or high quality treatment. They will probably have a few bags of blood on standby and you will go down the list of priorities.
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Plans for huge Jehovah's HQ take shape
by Formerbrother inhttp://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.
its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.
it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.
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Formerbrother
The underground project is now safely hidden, other are allowed inside the formerly restricted zone,
Are the new plans available to the public yet?
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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Former Brother In whàt way was the Anglican Church debunked ? Because we don't do door to door ? That has been dealt with , it is not necessary to preach in that way . ln fact Jesus said not to do that . You simply cannot let go of JW indoctrination can you ? I wonder what you are trying to achieve on here . You admit problems with the WT , then use it as a yard stick by which to measure other denominations . l think that you are trying to talk yourself back into a KH , but know that there is so much wrong with the org . Jan
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Jan, where did Jesus say not to preach door to door? I think you will find this is exactly what he wanted. Not just that way, but the last thing he said on earth was Math28:19,20, to go therefor and make disciples of people of all the nations.
I do not see the Anglican faith doing this.
Which problems do I admit with Jehovah's Witnesses? I admit to imperfect humans making mistakes, but you cant blame Jehovah for this. He has given us all free will, and the option to choose.
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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Acts5:29 "The watchtower studies the scriptures more than other religions - so until other religions do the same and compete with them, they will probably suit you best "
I dont want something that suits me best, I want the truth.
Most people do just want what suits them best, thats why one of these once saved always saved religions suit them best, then they can do what they like be imoral and still think they are saved.
The truth from the bible is completely different.
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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Dear Formerbrother
In my experience, all the answers we seek are wrapped up in the priceless gospel message - aka "the truth of the good news".
If someone is unable to explain the "good news" according to Paul (and Moses, Isaiah, and Psalms) how can they claim that the "good news" is in their heart and on their lips?
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Couldnt agree more. The good news of the Kingdom is the theme of the bible, its also what the JWs are the only ones preaching this to all the nations.
What point are you making? Do you know of anybody else preaching this to all the nations?
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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Better to stick to the bible, ALL of it. JWs are the only ones who do that. Using the divine name is also key.
