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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

No, actually we don't. Why force a translation of a name that even Jesus never used? If it was so important to make a modern, hybrid version of the tetragrammaton why didn't Jesus do so in his day? Where is the written record of him using the divine name? Why not just call god "father" or "Lord"? Truth shouldn't have to be forced or manipulated or modernized to fit the agendas of men. If god does indeed exist, then he/she/it knows who he/she/it is no matter what name/title you choose to call he/she/it.

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Interesting, Inever thought of that. Is it true that Jesus never used the divine name?

Well thinking about it I never really use my fathers name, I always refer to him with titles because he is my Dad.

If somebody calls their father by his name then they are not that close to him, more like estranged children call their dad by their name.

Edit: What a load of rubbish, Jesus did use the divine name man many times. for example he said it is Jehovah your God you must worship and him alone,

This is just another example of bitter people making things up.

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Give us more faith WT

by Formerbrother in

what a picture in this sundays wter.

the go bag is there and they have to turn all the lights out and have their meeting in secret.. .

in our congregation we are really being pushed hard to get your go bags in order for every member of the congregation, with at least 3-5 days food and water.. .

Formerbrother

This must be a depiction of what happens when the WTBTS is revealed as a corrupt, real estate selling, market speculating, hedge-fund using, weapons manufacturing co. investing, OSCE associating, Neo-Zionist Communist, pedophile protecting cult.

DD

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Weapon manufacturing?

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Changes and why

by Formerbrother in

so far these are all the recent changes i know of, please add more if i have missed anything.. 1. all construction projects have either been stopped or reduced.. 2. all bethels are downsizing by at least 20% within one year of the announcement, and almost certainly more in years to come.. 3. remaining belelites will have to make their own food, do their own washing and cleaning.. no more laundry department, no more kitchen and waiters, no more housekeeping!.

and you still only get 80 per month, but no rent or bills, and food will be provided in the family fridge but you have to prepare it yourself.. as to why, it has been said several times officially its not because of a lack of funds, but how could that possibly be the truth?.

Formerbrother

Im surprised nobody has posted about one of the largest ew changes, the new reporting system.

So it seems placing literature is not so important anymore, now that we live in a digital age.

We are being pushed to show videos instead. This is the new reporting from next month, just hrs and ANY literature placed in one box and then how many videos you showed in another box.

Big changes for sure.

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Changes to reporting

by Formerbrother in

so it seems placing literature is not so important anymore, now that we live in a digital age.. we are being pushed to show videos instead.

this is the new reporting from next month, just hrs and any literature placed in one box and then how many videos you showed in another box.. bib changes for sure..

Formerbrother

So it seems placing literature is not so important anymore, now that we live in a digital age.

We are being pushed to show videos instead. This is the new reporting from next month, just hrs and ANY literature placed in one box and then how many videos you showed in another box.

Bib changes for sure.

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Give us more faith WT

by Formerbrother in

what a picture in this sundays wter.

the go bag is there and they have to turn all the lights out and have their meeting in secret.. .

in our congregation we are really being pushed hard to get your go bags in order for every member of the congregation, with at least 3-5 days food and water.. .

Formerbrother

In an area where their work is restricted, Jehovah’s Witnesses hold a meeting in a dark basement

What a picture in this Sundays WTer.

The Go bag is there and they have to turn all the lights out and have their meeting in secret.

In our congregation we are really being pushed hard to get your go bags in order for every member of the congregation, with at least 3-5 days food and water.

The local needs about go bags is going to be at least once every year from now on, and more specific details each time.

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Changes and why

by Formerbrother in

so far these are all the recent changes i know of, please add more if i have missed anything.. 1. all construction projects have either been stopped or reduced.. 2. all bethels are downsizing by at least 20% within one year of the announcement, and almost certainly more in years to come.. 3. remaining belelites will have to make their own food, do their own washing and cleaning.. no more laundry department, no more kitchen and waiters, no more housekeeping!.

and you still only get 80 per month, but no rent or bills, and food will be provided in the family fridge but you have to prepare it yourself.. as to why, it has been said several times officially its not because of a lack of funds, but how could that possibly be the truth?.

Formerbrother

So, what does a person DO up at any of those places ? if I remember correctly, there was an announcement made years ago that they were not taking any more applications for persons to go to bethel, so who goes and why if all funding for projects are being cut? for all that matter they never needed printing facilities, they could have paid a company to print stuff up for crying out loud and never built a factory for printing. Ive always been confused by all that whole purpose of that big complex in new york and wallkill

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Its the largest printing organisation on earth, in the most languages by far. They couldnt pay someone to print that much in that many languages, well whoever took on such a large job would need branches as large as all the Bethels around the world.

But since tablets are becoming more widespread, less printed material needs to be printed.

We are encouraged now to be totally paperless at the meetings, songbook bible study material everything on the electronic screen instead of paper.

Thus the cutbacks on printed material and then all the support departments.

Most bethels around the world will just be translating work and the support departments they need, but much smaller now its mostly electronic.

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jw deny rumours moving UK HQ to Chelmsford project has collaspe

by Aleph in

http://www.essexchronicle.co.uk/jehovah-s-witnesses-deny-rumours-uk-headquarters/story-27899763-detail/story.html.

t. .

Formerbrother

Interesting....the publishing sectors expenses are so amazingly close to the "income"......how do they sleep at night....what a travesty...and they get away with taking off millions and nobody has a clue where it all goes. Then they proceed to rip off the locals and take over all their buildings and funds. Crooks.

can you expand? So we already know their outgoings are more than their income, thus all the cutbacks.

What else are you talking about?

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Changes and why

by Formerbrother in

so far these are all the recent changes i know of, please add more if i have missed anything.. 1. all construction projects have either been stopped or reduced.. 2. all bethels are downsizing by at least 20% within one year of the announcement, and almost certainly more in years to come.. 3. remaining belelites will have to make their own food, do their own washing and cleaning.. no more laundry department, no more kitchen and waiters, no more housekeeping!.

and you still only get 80 per month, but no rent or bills, and food will be provided in the family fridge but you have to prepare it yourself.. as to why, it has been said several times officially its not because of a lack of funds, but how could that possibly be the truth?.

Formerbrother

I hear in NY Bethel all the brothers and sisters are getting 'trained' to clean their own rooms and do their own laundry.

Many housekeepers have already been kicked out, the last ones will be gone soon.

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

Did you actually read any of the 60 replies?

I read many great replies, people actually taking some of their time to explain some shit for you, trying to help you use your brain.

And you come back with "blah blah Jehovah lives in a WT blah blah"....

Go back to the Kingdom Hall, you will fit right in.

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Yes I read all the replies, and have dug very deep, I would guess more than you.

Im really trying to get to the truth, Im on a mission to get to the bottom of it all.

There have been no replies to come up with one thing that shows JW org are further from the truth than any other option.

Yes I know you can find fault if you look hard enough, believe me I have looked very hard.

Yes there have been mistakes made, and imperfect humans will no doubt make more mistakes in the future.

But I now believe the entire Bible is Gods word, and that Jehovahs Witnesses are closest to the truth that anybody else. Far far closer than anybody else understanding of the bible.

Once again, what is the alternative? I know there are many here who strongly believe they JW's are wrong, so please sum up what is the alternative?

For example, when Jesus said "this is how you can identify my true followers, those who have love amongst themselves" which other organisation apart from JWs can also say that, in almost every nation around the world?

I dont think anybody else, but I could be wrong please give some alternatives?

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

So based from the fact that the WTS/JWS self identifies itself with a mis-translated latinised version of YHWH

(YAHWEH) originally created by Protestants ( False Religion of Babylon the Great ), that makes the JWS the nearest to the truth from the bible ?

How would like to be addressed or called a name that isn't even close to the original.

Jehovah" was popularized in the English-speaking world by William Tyndale and other pioneer EnglishProtestant translations such as the Geneva Bible and the King James Version.[2] It is still used in some translations, such as the New World Translation and Young's Literal Translation, but it is does not appear in most mainstream English translations, as the terms "Lord" or "LORD": used instead, generally indicating that the corresponding Hebrew is Yahweh or YHWH.

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This is so basic its not worth typing, so Jesus is wrong way to say his name as well? What about Joshua, John, Joseph, and every other name that we say starting with J?

And why pick on the English language? What about the hundreds of other languages?

We all know they tried to replace the divine name with titles such as lord or god, but the original YHWH is the divine name, we just have do the best we can translating it in each language, we may not get it quite right as we all say it differently around the world.

But in line with this thread, what is the alternative? To not use a name and use a title instead?