So I still cant find a better alternative.
Until I do I will stick to JWs.
Can somebody give me a simple alternative closer to the truth, without all this new age mumbojumbo like the truth is within you, or some such meaningless nonsense.
Formerbrother
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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Plans for huge Jehovah's HQ take shape
by Formerbrother inhttp://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.
its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.
it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.
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They stopped Nancy Chung formerbrother, after repeated warnings this stupid idiot still proceeded to go out on D2D, 30 years in solitary confinement done the trick, yes they can and do/will stop, go to Saudi Arabia/Iran/Sudan and organise some public door knocking work and find out how quick you end up in jail never heard from again!
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Nothing can stop Jehovahs people, the preaching work continues in China, N,Korea, Russia and ALL the nations just as Jesus said it would.
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The real reason Chelmsford hasn't been stopped
by Saltheart Foamfollower ini haven't seen this mentioned yet.
last year in the uk, shortly after the money grab that everyone had, we had a video and letter (both probably still available from atlantis) appealing for money for the new bethel and slips were handed out etc.
this means that most uk congregations are sending a regular donation specifically for the chelmsford build.
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Wouldn't a bunker be proof that they don't trust in J? I find it hard to believe that they'd create bunkers. That's not their style.
I dont think a bunker is the correct term, its a secret underground place for carrying on the global preaching campaign when it may be illegal to do so.
The JWs are expecting the UN to turn on religion and ban all religious activities sometime in the future. Most religions will comply, only JWs will carry on MOSTLY in secret. This is the reason for the secret underground compartments being secretly built around the world.
They stopped Nancy Chung formerbrother, after repeated warnings this stupid idiot still proceeded to go out on D2D, 30 years in solitary confinement done the trick, yes they can and do/will stop, go to Saudi Arabia/Iran/Sudan and organise some public door knocking work and find out how quick you end up in jail never heard from again!
Also N,Korea and dont forget China, also Russia now is under ban, but nothing can stop Jehovahs people. In all these places the preaching work continues just as Jesus said in all the nations.
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Despite a 'number' of similar projects being pulled, the Chelmsford Project will continue...
by NeverKnew inthis article suggests that there are projects being halted, but chelmsford isn't one of them.
can someone from the uk tell me if this article was written by a reputable and known publisher?
plans for huge jehovah's witnesses hq continues.
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TheListener9 days ago
Wouldn't a bunker be proof that they don't trust in J? I find it hard to believe that they'd create bunkers. That's not their style.-I dont think a bunker is the correct term, its a secret underground place for carrying on the global preaching campaign when it may be illegal to do so.The JWs are expecting the UN to turn on religion and ban all religious activities sometime in the future. Most religions will comply, only JWs will carry on in secret. This is the reason for the secret underground compartments being secretly built around the world. -
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Despite a 'number' of similar projects being pulled, the Chelmsford Project will continue...
by NeverKnew inthis article suggests that there are projects being halted, but chelmsford isn't one of them.
can someone from the uk tell me if this article was written by a reputable and known publisher?
plans for huge jehovah's witnesses hq continues.
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Landy2 months ago
I love a good conspiracy theory.
What do the tin foil hat brigade think the bunker is for?
Secret swinging hot tub parties?
A government style safe haven for Armageddon?
A secret tomb to bury all the bethelites once they turn 45 (Logan's run stylee)?
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The theory is that the work will be banned in Europe as it is in Russia and other countries. This is why the secret 7underground bunker was so secret, so much so that all the noise about KHs and all the other changes was to divert attention away from the fact that only 30 or so select workers were allowed near the bunker for months.
Everybody else at Chelmsford was sent home for a short while until the cover was over.
I know all this from one security brother who was not allowed near the site but got wind of it.
Anyway the cover is over, there is supposed to be only one super top secret entrance in and out. I suspect there is another super top secret emergency exit somewhere.
The thinking is that the prophecy of the beast (UN) turning on the harlot (false religion) means that all world governments will agree to BAN ALL RELIGION. The JWs are going to be the only ones who will not stop. Every other religion will stop worshipping their Gods, execpt JWs.
Most Elders and pioneers will be thrown in prison, but even that wont stop them.
Every JW who hasnt been caught will meet in secret rooms, we have had lots of pictures and info on this in WTowers recently.
The global preaching work will not stop even thought the governments will try.
I suspect there are going to be secret bunkers in many Bethels around the world, that is why most are moving away from cities and in the countries. -
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The real reason Chelmsford hasn't been stopped
by Saltheart Foamfollower ini haven't seen this mentioned yet.
last year in the uk, shortly after the money grab that everyone had, we had a video and letter (both probably still available from atlantis) appealing for money for the new bethel and slips were handed out etc.
this means that most uk congregations are sending a regular donation specifically for the chelmsford build.
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Formerbrother
The theory is that the work will be banned in Europe as it is in Russia and other countries. This is why the secret 7underground bunker was so secret, so much so that all the noise about KHs and all the other changes was to divert attention away from the fact that only 30 or so select workers were allowed near the bunker for months.
Everybody else at Chelmsford was sent home for a short while until the cover was over.
I know all this from one security brother who was not allowed near the site but got wind of it.
Anyway the cover is over, there is supposed to be only one super top secret entrance in and out. I suspect there is another super top secret emergency exit somewhere.
The thinking is that the prophecy of the beast (UN) turning on the harlot (false religion) means that all world governments will agree to BAN ALL RELIGION. The JWs are going to be the only ones who will not stop. Every other religion will stop worshipping their Gods, execpt JWs.
Most Elders and pioneers will be thrown in prison, but even that wont stop them.
Every JW who hasnt been caught will meet in secret rooms, we have had lots of pictures and info on this in WTowers recently.
The global preaching work will not stop even thought the governments will try.
I suspect there are going to be secret bunkers in many Bethels around the world, that is why most are moving away from cities and in the countries. -
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Plans for huge Jehovah's HQ take shape
by Formerbrother inhttp://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.
its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.
it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.
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Landy2 months agoI love a good conspiracy theory.
What do the tin foil hat brigade think the bunker is for?
Secret swinging hot tub parties?
A government style safe haven for Armageddon?
A secret tomb to bury all the bethelites once they turn 45 (Logan's run stylee)?
The theory is that the work will be banned in Europe as it is in Russia and other countries. This is why the secret 7underground bunker was so secret, so much so that all the noise about KHs and all the other changes was to divert attention away from the fact that only 30 or so select workers were allowed near the bunker for months.
Everybody else at Chelmsford was sent home for a short while until the cover was over.
I know all this from one security brother who was not allowed near the site but got wind of it.
Anyway the cover is over, there is supposed to be only one super top secret entrance in and out. I suspect there is another super top secret emergency exit somewhere.
The thinking is that the prophecy of the beast (UN) turning on the harlot (false religion) means that all world governments will agree to BAN ALL RELIGION. The JWs are going to be the only ones who will not stop. Every other religion will stop worshipping their Gods, execpt JWs.
Most Elders and pioneers will be thrown in prison, but even that wont stop them.
Every JW who hasnt been caught will meet in secret rooms, we have had lots of pictures and info on this in WTowers recently.
The global preaching work will not stop even thought the governments will try.
I suspect there are going to be secret bunkers in many Bethels around the world, that is why most are moving away from cities and in the countries. -
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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Formerbrother
So to sum up, there is not a clear alternative to JWs?
If Jehovah is not the true God then there is no truth?
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475
What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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Formerbrother
So could somebody sum up in as short as possible,
What is the alternative to JWs?
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475
What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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Formerbrother
the idea about Witnesses getting better health care is rubbish . ln the US maybe , l can't comment on that , but in the UK where our National Health Service is under funded and struggling .
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I am in the UK. When my wife was giving birth she lost a lot of blood. After the baby was born she wouldnt stop bleeding, the staff ordered a few bags of blood, then they thought they could take it easy.
I contacted the JW Hospital Liaison Committee and two brothers were at her bedside within the hour. Immediately the standard of health care went up, the JWs made sure of that, they knew exactly what they were talking about, other Doctors were called in and it was made clear that because giving blood was absolutely not an option they had to make her priority, she had the very best medical care to stop the bleeding and high quality care.
If they knew they could just pump more blood into her, then they could have carried on with sloppy medical care, Im sorry but its the truth. JWs get the very best medical care.
Many patients ask the JW H.L.C to help them, but its only for baptised members.
