Posts by Formerbrother

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

Blimey, mate......you need to take a step back. Breathe. Start again. I think the watchtower propaganda techniques have had an effect on you...not meaning to be rude. why not forget religion for a while and look into 'thought reform', 'logical fallacies' and 'propaganda techniques'.

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So one alternative is just to believe nothing? Dont think about how did life get here by evolution or by creation? Or another way to say what you are suggesting is bury your head in the sand?

I do want to know the truth, but each to his own.

Its interesting that hardly anybody on here has suggested evolution is an alternative.

All the suggested alternatives so far have been another belief in God or a creator.

There still is not one clear alternative that comes closer to the truth from the Bible than JWs.

If there is one clear option that is closer to the bible please post it here and the clear reasons why?

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

an organization that takes care of it young ones? an organization that does not cover over child abuse, threaten victims with expulsion while perpetrators stay and even die in good standing for years? I would have thought there are many groups with far more exemplary records, the WTS is tainted and stained with this dirty evil seedy cloud hanging over it.

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I do not believe anything gets covered over. The policy is, if a paedophile infiltrates the JWs then the police are notified right away.

Paedos can infiltrate any organisation anywhere, t how they deal with t that is important. The Jws have the best way to deal with it.

Anyway, what other options are there that follow ALL the bible, not just parts that suit them? Which other option apart fromJWs fullfill Jesus words that this is how you will know my true followers those who have love amung themselves?

Trying to find an alternative to JW's. After many years, I still can not find any other option that comes as close to ALL the Bible as JWs do.
If there is an option that I have missed please tell me here, I would like to look into it deeply.

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

So I still cant find a better alternative.

Until I do I will stick to JWs.

Can somebody give me a simple alternative closer to the truth, without all this new age mumbojumbo like the truth is within you, or some such meaningless nonsense.

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Plans for huge Jehovah's HQ take shape

by Formerbrother in

http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.

its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.

it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.

Formerbrother

They stopped Nancy Chung formerbrother, after repeated warnings this stupid idiot still proceeded to go out on D2D, 30 years in solitary confinement done the trick, yes they can and do/will stop, go to Saudi Arabia/Iran/Sudan and organise some public door knocking work and find out how quick you end up in jail never heard from again!

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Nothing can stop Jehovahs people, the preaching work continues in China, N,Korea, Russia and ALL the nations just as Jesus said it would.

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The real reason Chelmsford hasn't been stopped

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

i haven't seen this mentioned yet.

last year in the uk, shortly after the money grab that everyone had, we had a video and letter (both probably still available from atlantis) appealing for money for the new bethel and slips were handed out etc.

this means that most uk congregations are sending a regular donation specifically for the chelmsford build.

Formerbrother

Wouldn't a bunker be proof that they don't trust in J? I find it hard to believe that they'd create bunkers. That's not their style.

I dont think a bunker is the correct term, its a secret underground place for carrying on the global preaching campaign when it may be illegal to do so.

The JWs are expecting the UN to turn on religion and ban all religious activities sometime in the future. Most religions will comply, only JWs will carry on MOSTLY in secret. This is the reason for the secret underground compartments being secretly built around the world.

They stopped Nancy Chung formerbrother, after repeated warnings this stupid idiot still proceeded to go out on D2D, 30 years in solitary confinement done the trick, yes they can and do/will stop, go to Saudi Arabia/Iran/Sudan and organise some public door knocking work and find out how quick you end up in jail never heard from again!

Also N,Korea and dont forget China, also Russia now is under ban, but nothing can stop Jehovahs people. In all these places the preaching work continues just as Jesus said in all the nations.

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Despite a 'number' of similar projects being pulled, the Chelmsford Project will continue...

by NeverKnew in

jw
friends

this article suggests that there are projects being halted, but chelmsford isn't one of them.

can someone from the uk tell me if this article was written by a reputable and known publisher?

plans for huge jehovah's witnesses hq continues.

Formerbrother

TheListener9 days ago

Wouldn't a bunker be proof that they don't trust in J? I find it hard to believe that they'd create bunkers. That's not their style.

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I dont think a bunker is the correct term, its a secret underground place for carrying on the global preaching campaign when it may be illegal to do so.

The JWs are expecting the UN to turn on religion and ban all religious activities sometime in the future. Most religions will comply, only JWs will carry on in secret. This is the reason for the secret underground compartments being secretly built around the world.

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Despite a 'number' of similar projects being pulled, the Chelmsford Project will continue...

by NeverKnew in

jw
friends

this article suggests that there are projects being halted, but chelmsford isn't one of them.

can someone from the uk tell me if this article was written by a reputable and known publisher?

plans for huge jehovah's witnesses hq continues.

Formerbrother

Landy2 months ago

I love a good conspiracy theory.

What do the tin foil hat brigade think the bunker is for?

Secret swinging hot tub parties?

A government style safe haven for Armageddon?

A secret tomb to bury all the bethelites once they turn 45 (Logan's run stylee)?

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The theory is that the work will be banned in Europe as it is in Russia and other countries. This is why the secret 7underground bunker was so secret, so much so that all the noise about KHs and all the other changes was to divert attention away from the fact that only 30 or so select workers were allowed near the bunker for months.
Everybody else at Chelmsford was sent home for a short while until the cover was over.
I know all this from one security brother who was not allowed near the site but got wind of it.
Anyway the cover is over, there is supposed to be only one super top secret entrance in and out. I suspect there is another super top secret emergency exit somewhere.

The thinking is that the prophecy of the beast (UN) turning on the harlot (false religion) means that all world governments will agree to BAN ALL RELIGION. The JWs are going to be the only ones who will not stop. Every other religion will stop worshipping their Gods, execpt JWs.
Most Elders and pioneers will be thrown in prison, but even that wont stop them.
Every JW who hasnt been caught will meet in secret rooms, we have had lots of pictures and info on this in WTowers recently.
The global preaching work will not stop even thought the governments will try.
I suspect there are going to be secret bunkers in many Bethels around the world, that is why most are moving away from cities and in the countries.

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The real reason Chelmsford hasn't been stopped

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

i haven't seen this mentioned yet.

last year in the uk, shortly after the money grab that everyone had, we had a video and letter (both probably still available from atlantis) appealing for money for the new bethel and slips were handed out etc.

this means that most uk congregations are sending a regular donation specifically for the chelmsford build.

Formerbrother

The theory is that the work will be banned in Europe as it is in Russia and other countries. This is why the secret 7underground bunker was so secret, so much so that all the noise about KHs and all the other changes was to divert attention away from the fact that only 30 or so select workers were allowed near the bunker for months.

Everybody else at Chelmsford was sent home for a short while until the cover was over.
I know all this from one security brother who was not allowed near the site but got wind of it.
Anyway the cover is over, there is supposed to be only one super top secret entrance in and out. I suspect there is another super top secret emergency exit somewhere.

The thinking is that the prophecy of the beast (UN) turning on the harlot (false religion) means that all world governments will agree to BAN ALL RELIGION. The JWs are going to be the only ones who will not stop. Every other religion will stop worshipping their Gods, execpt JWs.
Most Elders and pioneers will be thrown in prison, but even that wont stop them.
Every JW who hasnt been caught will meet in secret rooms, we have had lots of pictures and info on this in WTowers recently.
The global preaching work will not stop even thought the governments will try.
I suspect there are going to be secret bunkers in many Bethels around the world, that is why most are moving away from cities and in the countries.

79

Plans for huge Jehovah's HQ take shape

by Formerbrother in

http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.

its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.

it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.

Formerbrother

Landy2 months ago

I love a good conspiracy theory.

What do the tin foil hat brigade think the bunker is for?

Secret swinging hot tub parties?

A government style safe haven for Armageddon?

A secret tomb to bury all the bethelites once they turn 45 (Logan's run stylee)?

Flag Dislike Like-

The theory is that the work will be banned in Europe as it is in Russia and other countries. This is why the secret 7underground bunker was so secret, so much so that all the noise about KHs and all the other changes was to divert attention away from the fact that only 30 or so select workers were allowed near the bunker for months.
Everybody else at Chelmsford was sent home for a short while until the cover was over.
I know all this from one security brother who was not allowed near the site but got wind of it.
Anyway the cover is over, there is supposed to be only one super top secret entrance in and out. I suspect there is another super top secret emergency exit somewhere.

The thinking is that the prophecy of the beast (UN) turning on the harlot (false religion) means that all world governments will agree to BAN ALL RELIGION. The JWs are going to be the only ones who will not stop. Every other religion will stop worshipping their Gods, execpt JWs.
Most Elders and pioneers will be thrown in prison, but even that wont stop them.
Every JW who hasnt been caught will meet in secret rooms, we have had lots of pictures and info on this in WTowers recently.
The global preaching work will not stop even thought the governments will try.
I suspect there are going to be secret bunkers in many Bethels around the world, that is why most are moving away from cities and in the countries.

475

What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

Formerbrother

So to sum up, there is not a clear alternative to JWs?

If Jehovah is not the true God then there is no truth?