Posts by btlc

the wife and i were expecting a health worker to call at our door 10:30 this morning and about 10;35 two women appeared at our door so i opened up thinking they were who i expected ,so i was take back a bit being caught off guard when they identified themselves as doing a bible work.. this is just the gist of what took place & not a word for word conversation.. a woman about in her fifties her companion about her twenties.the older woman did most of the talking as she read to me the scripture from her phone " in the last days critical times hard to deal with...etc.etc.and she went back and emphasised that we were living in the last days because of what that scripture said.. i made the comment that the scripture just about sums up human history in any given time.then i went on to say that this day and age is the best time in human history overall given the advances in technology ,medical procedures ,the overall standard of living being higher and so on .but they insisted on we were living in the last days.then i said different religions have been claiming that for the past couple hundred years.. then to throw them a curve ball i asked if they were mormons ?

oh no we are jehovah`s witnesses.had i been prepared for them and not caught out unawares i would have taken a different tact.i then asked the older woman how long she has been a witness and she said 36 years so i then said to her you must have seen a lot of changes in your religion during that time which she agreed with.

( the light gets brighter).

btlc

Actually, they weren't wrong much. C.T.Russell never planed or intended a "religion" or "organization" like JW.borg, and his belives was quite different than JW's in 1930's and later. Some years after his death, in the 1920's, especially after 1925 fiasco, 3/4 of the Bible Students left "The Watchtower", and the rest (of the rest) received new name, "Jehovah's Witnesses" 1931 by the Rutherford, who has usurpated "The Watchtower" society for personal benefits and promotion and who established "the organization" as we know today. Of course, I doubt that your ladies know anything of the above. I doubt that they even know who is who.

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Subliminal Messaging

by truthlover123 in

for over 20 years subliminal pictures showed up in most books, wt, and awakes- eighties, nineties and into 2000's.... demons, gods, you name it-- .

question: is anyone seeing anything like this in todays publications?

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btlc

Now something from different category, article "Autos, past and present", Awake! 08.01.2003

and familiar face beyond luxury Cadillac

Must admit two things:
1) WT leaders have a good taste when is about to spend contributions money
2) WT know how to make "the Big Brother is watching you" subliminal effect

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chelmsford progress

by stan livedeath in

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does anyone have an update on the developement in chelmsford?.

i'm always keenly slightly interested in hearing about jehovahs blessings..

btlc

Lol on the comments under the article, just like comments on the meeting, self glorifying crap. I wonder how much female civil engineers and supervisors are there or any other JW construction site.

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Subliminal Messaging

by truthlover123 in

for over 20 years subliminal pictures showed up in most books, wt, and awakes- eighties, nineties and into 2000's.... demons, gods, you name it-- .

question: is anyone seeing anything like this in todays publications?

.

btlc

My favorite, old brown songbook cover:

mysterious 2nd pair of legs from the right

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Videos Remove on Rutube now Available Again

by blondie in

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https://truthandtransparency.org/news/2019/5/29/2019-jehovahs-witness-convention-videos-published-again-after-successful-takedown-request.

btlc

Reading something completely different:

https://www.un.org/documents/ga/docs/51/plenary/a51-542.htm

i found on the very end of the document: "Reproduction and dissemination of the document - in electronic and/or printed format - is encouraged, provided acknowledgement is made of the role of the United Nations in making it available." But the UN is just a Satan's tool to attack God's Organization any time soon...

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Alternate military service pre and post 1996 witness policies. Please comments.

by benny in

what are the thoughts on the changes made by the society in the 1996 watchtower [new light] where one can then accept alternate army service where before you would have to be sentenced to do this.

i feel many were sent to prison needlessly or even executed.

this was not a matter of conscience as the watchtower claims..

btlc

In my country (SE Europe) military service was mandatory till 1997. I delayed my military invitations as much as I can, but in the summer 1997 police came and packed me to military base where I was prisoned 8 days. I had talks with some high ranked military heads, and I had oportunity to explain our standing (as JW, I was devouted in that time), that we don't reject service to our homeland, just we can't service under military department, but we can accept pure civilian service. I was releised, and few months later i was assigned to 15 months service in Center for disabled persons (mostly Down sindrom and autistic people) 10 min drive from my home. I was the 6th in my country who was assigned for pure civil service and the 1st who actualy finished it. It was positive experience after all.

I really don't know how I would explain the "old light" if military got me prior the 1996, I never understood how rotting in the prison is better than doing something usefull for community.

Years later when I discovered WT-UN scandal, I found that in same time (mid '90ties) UN demanded from several countries (mine included) to lose pressure on JW about military service and made available pure civilian service instead. Check points 30, 34 on this document dated 23 October 1996:

https://www.un.org/documents/ga/docs/51/plenary/a51-542.htm

I can't get rid of the impression that the "new light" about civilian service was just an agreement (compromise) between JW and UN - at least one good thing out of that scandal...

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Sadly, This is Real

by berrygerry in

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btlc

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What Views or Beliefs Do Jehovah’s Witnesses No Longer Teach?

by minimus in

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evidently they have changed their creative day from being 7000 years per day.

all blood transfusions were taboo but now blood fractions might be allowed to be taken into the body.

vaccinations were sinful at one time but not now.. can you name other views or beliefs that have changed from being considered “truth” to no longer “the truth “?.

btlc

Good source for digging: Beliefs Clarified, Watch Tower Publications Index

1930-1985

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200028612

1986-2019

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200277174