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  Watchtower hires off-duty law enforcement

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  an indignant law enforcement officer wrote kim & mikey to let them know watchtower had placed an advertisement on a facebook page dedicated to law enforcement staff only, looking to hire a fully uniformed and armed officer at $35 per hour.

  the commission was for the memorial in a specified texan venue.. the officer was particularly miffed at the hypocrisy considering the terrible way law enforcement was portrayed in the 2018 convention video, where the jws had been herded into a field to be slaughtered by a large group of officers.

  not to mention the fact they are only too willing to call police for their own protection, yet won’t do so when it comes to protecting children from potential or actual abuse.. https://youtu.be/-rpcsztnvyo.

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  I don't know how things works in USA, but here (SE Europe) large gatherings should be approved by local authorities, who also decides is internal security good enough or should be dedicated some police monitoring (uniformed or not) to the event. Same was also 30+ years ago, under socialistic regime, some policemen attended whole program, some just noon break, eating free lunch from convention bife...
  
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  Jehovah provides guidance in the publications and in programs from the faithful slave!

  by stumbledbyothers in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this past weeks watchtower study, reminds us that jehovah provides guidance in the publications and in programs from faithful slave!

  now you hear from the platform that god has given us jw broadcasting and jw.org.

  lets see: thought wt says they have no special connection to god, nor special knowledge, they get no extra holy spirit, gods thoughts higher than mans???

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  btlc

  So, now in internet era, good old Holy Spirit is a little obsolete as guidance tool to God's people? Wi-Fi and 4G link to JW.ORG does a better job? Can't recall last time I read anything about Holy Spirit in WT publications...
  
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  Do You Think The Bible Teaches A Trinity As Religions Teach?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i’m not asking whether you believe in the bible.

  i just want your opinion as to whether you think the bible teaches it.

  i don’t, for what it’s worth..

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  Once upon on a time when I still was uber JW, I had a discussion with one Catholic priest, and i still remember his comment about the Trinity: "it was so obvious to the apostles and to the 1st century Church, so they didn't even bother to put it on paper or to make formal definition - that need became later, with spreading Christianity worldwide. And you can't lock Christ's Church to 27 NT books or to the 1st century, it is a live organism..."
  Ofcourse, I rejected such apologetic blabber in that time. But later reading of the Cathecism gave me better insight to Catholic reasoning - it has far more inner sense than any WT teaching, despite both are completly b...s...
  
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  How Would You Help A JW. Recognize They Do Not Have The Truth?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  every witness says they are “ in the truth”.

  that expression implies that what they say is the “truth “.

  how could you help a witness understand that they clearly do not have “the truth “?.

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  btlc

  Deuteronomy 20:21, 22

  Galatians 1:8, 9

  with some examples, usually works
  
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  Sign at gilead graduation

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you know, i'm not such a conspiracy thinker.

  but why do they display this sign / symbol at the background?

  with some litle imagination it is a freemason sign.

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  It is a table with a tablecloth, to make a more intimate atmosphere, it is easier to draw one than actually bring one

  
  
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  You Don't Have to Tell the Elders Anything!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you were ever brought before a judicial committee, and were about to be interrogated by the elders, just remember...you owe them nothing.

  they are mere men and no better than you!

  even if it wasn’t a judicial interrogation , you should never feel obligated to them.

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  Opening post should be printed and nailed to congregation's clipboard!
  
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  You might have been a JW if...

  by Incognigo Montoya in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ... unlike the rest of humanity, you looked forward to mondays because it was a day off from a meeting..

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  ... if you spent all day on football stadium and didn't saw a single football.
  
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  Door-to-door preaching as surveillance

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i wanted to share some thoughts about jehovah's witnesses and their door-to-door preaching.

  door-to-door preaching is supposedly about gathering converts, but in fact, as we frequently discuss, doesn't actually bring that many "sheep-like ones" in.

  i want to suggest that a second meaning (what we call the latent meaning in academia) is facilitating surveillance of the congregants who attend some congregation.

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  Back in eighties, when I was young and foolish and active in ministry, and when I started with database programming, I sometime daydreamed about hundreds and thousands of JW, who browse territory daily, making detailed notes about people (and their assets), their behavior, habits, state, feelings, thoughts... and collect all that data in a database, regularly updated, and how much would that database worth in a few years and who will be interested in that... WT could made billions just selling data back in time when that things wasn't regulated or prohibited :)
  
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  Hidden Doctrines

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  " religions do not volunteer their most offensive doctrines to newcomers ".

  the above sentence was posted on another thread as part of a quote taken from jwfacts .

  l commented that this was a sweeping generalisation of the kind often made about all religions .

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  The religion is (also) a product for sale, their doctrines is dosed enough as much as it needs to be bought by customer. The rest of the doctrine is optional. The most of the believers knows just basics of their religion, or even less (i.e. like in JW case).
  
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  Help needed finding an old WT article

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i no longer trust the search engine at the official jw website since they have quietly modified, purged, and expunged—or simply made no longer available—so many old works/pubs., so i'm asking for help finding an old article that likely predates the late 1970s (?).

  i think it was an article rather than in a book, but i can't be sure.

  the article's focus was on what it means for the anointed to be declared righteous.. it's important, i suspect, for grasping the view that whatever the gb decide is completely god-directed, so that, in effect, even though the org might officially deny it, the gb are viewed as infallible in practical terms.

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  The article's focus was on what it means for the anointed to be declared righteous.
  

  I think you looking for:

  w73 12/1 pp. 730-733 Jehovah Brings ‘Sealing’ of His Chosen Ones to a Close
  

  
  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1973885