When I was still PIMI, I was always honest with my reporting. Later, when I woke up and quited with preaching, I stopped my reporting, and then brother who was in charge literally asked me to "report anything, at least one hour", or else he must remove my card to separate folder, fill some forms, then elders must visit me and fill some more forms, othervise CO will bother them because he should fill some forms, etc, so to save everybody's time "please, please, send anything, on my responsibility". So I felt sorry for poor brothers and continued to report, even fake.
Posts by btlc
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50Did you EVER falsify your report card ?
by Chook inevery single watchtower soldier lied to god out of fear of the brooklyn popes..
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January 2020 Watchtower - Dogma being force-fed yet again as "truth"!
by The Fall Guy inif the wording & context of a scripture is dismissed at the outset, then every statement and assumption which follows is implicititly false.
in the very first study article, the gibbering body continues to indoctrinate the sheeple to accept that over 500 people met jesus on the mountain - despite the blatant fact that 1 corinthians 15:6 says absolutely nothing about the 500 people being anywhere near galilee!
(matthew 28:16-20) however, the 11 disciples went to galʹi·lee to the mountain where jesus had arranged for them (the 11 disciples) to meet.
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Must correct myself, data source for the world population from last post was wikipedia. Using worldometers.info numbers are slightly different:
Anyway, decceleration of the growth is there, but declining of JW is not on sight anytime soon.
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January 2020 Watchtower - Dogma being force-fed yet again as "truth"!
by The Fall Guy inif the wording & context of a scripture is dismissed at the outset, then every statement and assumption which follows is implicititly false.
in the very first study article, the gibbering body continues to indoctrinate the sheeple to accept that over 500 people met jesus on the mountain - despite the blatant fact that 1 corinthians 15:6 says absolutely nothing about the 500 people being anywhere near galilee!
(matthew 28:16-20) however, the 11 disciples went to galʹi·lee to the mountain where jesus had arranged for them (the 11 disciples) to meet.
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Figures can vary from country to country, but generally JW still growing slowly. Yet, last few years they oscillate around 0.109%. I used data from WT reports and worldometers.info:
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January 2020 Watchtower - Dogma being force-fed yet again as "truth"!
by The Fall Guy inif the wording & context of a scripture is dismissed at the outset, then every statement and assumption which follows is implicititly false.
in the very first study article, the gibbering body continues to indoctrinate the sheeple to accept that over 500 people met jesus on the mountain - despite the blatant fact that 1 corinthians 15:6 says absolutely nothing about the 500 people being anywhere near galilee!
(matthew 28:16-20) however, the 11 disciples went to galʹi·lee to the mountain where jesus had arranged for them (the 11 disciples) to meet.
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I can't help but notice how desperate WT trying to avoid any mention "...in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit...", both in yeartext and study article. It is funny reading paragraph 3:
Read Matthew 28:16-20. At the meeting that Jesus organized, he outlined the vital work that his disciples would accomplish throughout the first century—the same work that we are accomplishing today. Jesus said: “Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, . . . teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you.”
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The "figurative" heart
by Sour Grapes inabout 25 years ago i gave a talk about how when the bible talks about the heart that it is the literal heart and how the heart and the brain are connected by nerve tissue.
the watchtower even stated that some people who received a heart transplant would take on some of the personality of the donor.then all of a sudden the borg changed and said that when the bible refers to the heart that it is figurative.
then when ever the watchtower referred to the heart it always put the word figurative in front of it.. does anyone know why there was a change in the use of the word heart?
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The Watchtower, March 1, 1971, page 134:
"... and thus we do not want to make mistake of viewing the literal heart as merely a fleshly pump as does orthodox physiology today. Most psychiatrists and psychologists tend to overcategorize the mind and allow for little if any influence from the fleshly heart, looking upon the word “heart” merely as a figure of speech apart from its use in identifying the organ that pumps our blood."
The Watchtower, June 1, 1986, page 15:
"The ancient Egyptians believed that the physical heart was the seat of intelligence and the emotions. They also thought that it had a will of its own. The Babylonians said that the heart housed the intellect as well as love. The Greek philosopher Aristotle taught that it was the seat of the senses and the domain of the soul. But as time passed and knowledge increased, these views were discarded. Finally the heart became known for what it is, a pump to circulate the blood throughout the body."
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The "figurative" heart
by Sour Grapes inabout 25 years ago i gave a talk about how when the bible talks about the heart that it is the literal heart and how the heart and the brain are connected by nerve tissue.
the watchtower even stated that some people who received a heart transplant would take on some of the personality of the donor.then all of a sudden the borg changed and said that when the bible refers to the heart that it is figurative.
then when ever the watchtower referred to the heart it always put the word figurative in front of it.. does anyone know why there was a change in the use of the word heart?
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BluesBrother: I well remember this teaching. Was there not District Convention in the 70's that featured a large illuminated heart on the platform?
Yep, I remember that too, it was in mid 70's, big scary heart made of styrofoam, I was maybe 4-5y old, and I didn't like it at all -
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New HuB logo
by MrHappy inso the organisation has developed a new software for the coordination of nearly everything!
i just want point out a few things i notice about the new hub icon logo.
the image contains twelve pillars with the 2 at the front being the prominent.
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Don't forget "W" in "JW", it is obviously sign of the "original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan..." (Rev. 20:2)
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Evolution or Creation?
by Doug Mason inwhat would the outcome be among people at this site if we were able to conduct a poll on belief in evolution or in creation?.
what would the outcome be if at the same time we asked for religious affiliation (including formal, informal, or none)?
doug.
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As a devoted JW, I believed for decades in WT version of creationism, mostly because my "knowledge" was based on WT literature. After I started to doubt in WT dogmas, I started also to recheck everything I believed. Among the last things was creationism / evolution. I spent months on that topic (at the same time i had to use evolutionary algorithms to optimize some process at my study of mechanical engineering), and, to make long story short, I found that there is nothing to "believe" - evolution is the fact, and theory of evolution is the best explanation of that fact. It is universal no matter what you observe - biology, chemistry, engineering, social science, economy, management - in any field you can successfully use the same principles to find solution, it works the same - the best proof of theory of evolution.
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Interested in a refresher about the anointed
by frozen2018 ini've had very little to do with jw's since the early 1990's.
however, i do try to stay a little informed on what they are up to as i have several close relatives who are devout.
i rely on this site to keep me updated.. over the weekend i learned that a couple of my relatives, a father and son, have decided that they are anointed and had some bread and wine at the last memorial.
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The number of anointed oscilated almost 20 years between 8900 and 8600, to hit the lowest number in 2005 - 8524. Since then it's going up every year, probably hitting 20 000+ this year (19 521 in 2018). If you count just JW + IBSA anointed in last 140 years, we talking probably about 100 000+ partakers (1935 was 50 000+ partakers). Add 1st century christians, some during next 18 centuries, and we really need some "new light" about 144 000 doctrine.
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1914 Was Originally Just 40 Years Past the End Date of 1874, That's All it Was!
by OnTheWayOut inyou don't need to understand complicated ways to go from 607bce to 1914ce.
you don't have to go back to the late 1700's to understand the founding of jehovah's witnesses on the back of william miller's teachings.
you just need to know that watchtower math and past doctrines along with changes in teachings are all based on lies.
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About "zero year" thing, even C. T. Russell was aware of that, but he rather shift deadline to October 1915 (WT December 1, 1912):