I like this comment on their site, "I suspect this will make resell much easier and maybe get a higher price out of the sell". I thought the end was coming any day now; deep, deep, deep in these last days; just around the corner, on the threshold of the new system! Why resell? Blind!!!
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New K.Hall Design, Mansfield
by BluesBrother innot mansfield u k , but mansfield in u s a - it doesn't look much, does it?
in fact even the uber dubs on j w talk are not impressed (that must be a first!
this thread of theirs is publicly readable:.
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Update on fade. Elders finally are interested on my "welfare"
by StarTrekAngel inso since the last time i posted regarding my fade, you all learned that i was having some health issues.
that came along just right to quit going to meeting without raising much suspicion.
somehow everyone at the hall seemed ready to tell my wife they missed me but attended the memorial and no one bothered to take the initiative to back those words with actions.. i guess that having seen me at the memorial they at least felt bad because last night i got a call from one of the elders telling me they want to come today and visit with me.
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I agree with Finkelstein. I missed the memorial and was texted that they forgot to tell me about the date and time. I already knew the information. Well stupid me met with them on the weekend to see how I was doing. It's been kind of rough for me, but I'm starting to get thick skinned about things. Anyways, one Elder was genuine showing concern, but the other was starting to toe the company line, getting a little rougher about things. I left more disillusioned and pissed that I met with them. Guess I was hoping for understanding, but nope, nothing. It's taking me a few days to shake off that visit. My suggestion, don't allow the visit. It's not concern, but to see where you are standing in relation to them. It's like the Miranda rights, anything you say can and will be used against you in their court of law. Avoid, avoid, avoid!!! -
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Why is this year's memorial being held on March 23 (which is the 13th of Adar II on the Jewish Calendar)?
by outsmartthesystem ini thought it had to be done on nisan 14????.
nisan 14 isn't until april 22nd.
does this have anything to do with an intercalary month being added to the jewish calendar this year or something?
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Cheeto, as Blondie pointed out the Jews add an extra lunar month because of how they observe their calendar. The spring equinox was Sunday, March 20th. So the first full moon is on Wednesday, March 23rd. But as WTWizard pointed out, pick a holiday and go from there. Me personally, I will be having a Diet Coke & rum, or two, or three, or.......... -
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I am losing
by NoMoreHustle ini haven't posted anything for a bit, but wanted to express how i am losing this battle.
it has been over 3 years now since i woke up about watchtower.
the battle that i am talking about is the tug of war with my wife (i adore her immensely), watchtower is winning, she simply will not give in to my so-called negative thoughts about the religion that we are in.
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If she feels the same way about you, then make it work. Respect her wishes about what she wants to believe and don't fight about it. If she talks, then agree to listen. it doesn't mean she is going to convert you back, but she will see that you still love her and respect you. You know what you know and you want her to see the same things you see. Well give it time. Remember what they said at the meetings all the time with an unbelieving mate? She may be won without a word!!! -
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lf the paradise earth is real would you want to live there?
by atomant inl know l would.anyone that says no is kidding themselves.just imagine going up to the hole of a cobra and patting it on the head like a pet.or running like a deer through the woods.who knows we might grows wings and be able to fly as well.food for thought.
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JW bs aside, why not? Imagine what you could accomplish! Learning and adapting, discovering new ways of travel, examining the entire universe! Learning new things for the rest of your life. But, it's just a dream. -
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Are you good with maths
by pepperheart inhi if 50 million articles cost 1 cent to publish how much would that be in total ?
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$500,000.00 US dollars or 8 Million lives wasted and their 15% increase in donations! -
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if you had the slightest of doubt about leaving leaving the watchtower org. go to to jwsurvey.org NOW!
by nowwhat? inand we are suposed to trust these guys with our lives?
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I feel so f**king stupid!!! I have devoted my entire life to this crap. I've posted previously under a different user name, but changed it because I felt I would get caught (RecoveringISFJ and forgot password too). Last two years I have been in turmoil and this sh*t turns up? I'm sorry for the language, but ever since my marriage and everything started going south, that everything I have ever held in is coming out, including my damn beard!!!! The audacity of actually buying your own award! That's like me buying my own "Best Bass Guitarist" award at a local trophy shop. And what now? Middle aged raising my kids on my own because my ex checked out and is living a stupid life waiting for her boyfriend to leave his wife? Struggling to make ends meet and trying to undue the damage to my kids! No help from the KH (unless you need your computer fixed). Thank you WTBTS, and you know what BS stands for! Thank GOD my "worldly" co-workers are there to help.This is just ridiculous crap and here I was wondering if I was being unfaithful and stressing every day thinking I'm going to be killed at Armageddon! -
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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please
by scared and lonely ini am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
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scared and lonely, you will need to calm down to be able to think for a moment. The brother that hired you cleaning for him, is this a legal hire? I mean, do you get a paycheck where they take out taxes or is this an under the table thing? If he is your legal employer, you can't be fired for religious reasons, if you are in the US. Not sure if your outside the US. Also if they try to put the squeeze on you then document everything, that way you can show a discrimination if they try to terminate you. I won't lie, it will be scary and hard at first. You just gotta take a moment to batten down the hatches. At the moment you do have a place to stay and don't let anyone push you to disassociate. They can't force you to quit or disassociate and keep your feelings to yourself, don't tell anyone anything. Tell your parents your just having a hard time and just need to think things out. During that time plan what your going to do such as looking for a job or place to live. Unless they are kicking you out immediately, you still have options. -
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RESPONSIBILITY vs. "moral" Responsibility (What is the distinction and what is the difference?)
by Terry inthis is not intended to be a highbrow discussion!.
you ( ought ) to pay me back that $100.
.. bank loan.
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I like that! It's like me calling my grandmother and saying "thank you" and everyone else is telling me things like "did you call and thank her", "calling is not enough you need to send her a card telling her how grateful you are" or "you better be grateful she did that because she didn't have to" when I already am grateful and thankful and expressed it in my own way. I hope I'm in the same line of thought.
It's their way of exploiting others to make themselves look they know what they are talking about, plus it helps them fleece the sheep! Control, control, control!
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Any former elders brains I could pick?
by BarelyThere ini posted in another topic a few hours ago.
it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.
i was dfed back in september for adultery.
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Well the issue isn’t about how to get reinstated. You’ve got other things you’re going to need to deal with first. You said you were in a bad marriage, but it was a marriage nonetheless. Regardless of the reason, adultery wasn’t the answer. You stated you regret it, but honestly you should have just divorced him and saved him the turmoil of dealing with the infidelity. No need to look back now. If some are thinking that the ORG doesn’t allow divorce as they say, because she was stuck in a bad marriage, well they don’t allow adultery either. A divorce is hard enough, but to top it off with adultery, man that can really mess with a person’s head! However, this is about you. Outside of abuse (physical or emotional), it’s a 50/50 failure in your marriage (not talking about the adultery, that’s on you). You said you were too young to get married and made a bad decision. Well you did make another bad decision when you cheated, and if you marry the person you cheated with, you WILL make another bad decision. You need to take time for some therapy and work some kinks out in your own head. Going back to the ORG is going to guilt you up and eventually friends and family will say NO MAS in talking to you if your still disfellowshipped. If you try to get reinstated, you will be monitored because they are not letting up on getting people back in too fast (unless you’re connected). You’re looking for an emotional attachment because of everything that’s going on. You most likely feel lost, bewildered and confused. Then take the time to work on yourself and get strong without figuring out another relationship. Take the time to learn TTATT. Since you’re D’fed you have more freedom to check things out without having someone looking over your shoulder. Hey, we all f**k up, we just want you to learn to be finally free!