has anyone else received this email?
"items priced to move, up to 80% off cost".
i'd post the email but i worry they put secret identifying marks on it somehow.
Yes, doesn't sound like something for an ongoing operation ... more of a closing up shop.
Funny, I thought AM3 said they needed to have carpenters and construction workers in the new system and not doctors or lawyers. What tools are the they going to use? Oh wait, I guess they'll get them back when everyone is burnt to a crisp or destroyed by "some form of antimatter"!
i know only adultery is supposed to be grounds for "scriptural" divorce.
i'm a wicked apostate in their eyes, but my believing husband and i still can't get a divorce that would allow him to remarry.
we currently are separated - i have left him.
Anyone can get divorced. Remarriage is where the issue is. My ex wife filed for divorce (she cheated, but didn't admit it) and told them that she doesn't want to be married and that there would be no reconciliation and they didn't do squat but read a couple of scriptures. Hands off during the whole ordeal. Remember, they talk the talk, but don't walk the walk! It's all so stupid! I lost out big time trying to be the nice guy! So now I don't trust anything they say!!! Besides, they lost me at the Overlapping gens anyways and that was that! Unless you have family in, then do what you want to do. My only issue is if someone cheats. If you didn't cheat and want to divorce him, then just be upfront about it to him. Better to get it off your chest now, unless you are trying to keep it on the lowdown because of family. Sorry if I sound bitter, was slandered during the whole ordeal so she could hide her actions. Actually it was kinda good because know I don't talk to any of them anymore (smooth fade). Go and be happy, enjoy life!!!
after exiting the org, i mean cult, how have each of you felt personally about the lies you had been taught, the hurt from feeling betrayed by these people, actual hopes of once believed false teachings, rose colored lenses of seemingly just and right doctrines that turned out to be a bunch of horse $#!+, the shunning of family and friends?
right now i am going through the motions, i've just moved to a new home, which means hopefully no more elders searching for me at my previous address.. i can't help but feel sad though right now because of the fact that although i am not df'd ( maybe the elders will do it in absentia assuming i've been avoiding them and the 2 jc's they've invited me to as well as the last handwritten letter at my door before i moved ) my mom treats me as though i am dead to her, she says " i am living the life of a disfellowshipped person, and until i come back to jehovah this is how things will be because this was my choice to leave jehovah " ok i get it, but i don't- everyone has free will, so yes this was my choice but it is also her choice to shun me, especially after the "shun unrepentant wrongdoers" talk at the rc, funny how they come out with these talks to reel members back in.. she claims that she has an obligation to jehovah of which she promised to him after she was baptized not at 11, 13, or 17 ( young ages ) but fricken 26 years old.
i absolutely hate this organization and everything that it is, it's taken away my family and most importantly my own mother.. i always thought that a mothers love was to be unconditional, but hers for me is only conditional.
I'm fading and I am both sad and angry. I've known TTATT for a while, but was holding on to it hoping it was true and hoping it would save my marriage. Marriage failed and fading begun. I am also angry with myself for falling for it. I should have known better, but now I am using my anger to motivate me to get my kids set right, in school and plan for their future. In my 50's and need to make sure they are okay (not much time for myself). Family knows I don't believe, but are not shunning me. They just say my decision, and I don't talk to ANYONE from the hall. They abandon you when you need them (sad), but call you when they want something (angry).
at a recent meeting there was a watchtower article about life in paradise.
they were saying that even when witnesses finally get there they will still be under the strict instructions from the elders and gb.
they may be given jobs that they will find unpleasant, also the preaching work will be ongoing because of all the resurrected people who need to learn about why they are given another chance.
So let me get this straight, instructions from the GB and Elders. Aren't the GB supposed to be in heaven at this time? And what about Peter, Paul, James, John and all the rest of the 144K? These seven outweigh the rest of them? What hogwash!!!!
ok. i know this has been brought up in the past, but i have often wondered who in our halls are awake (for those of us who attend).
there are some i would consider a 'maybe', but no way of ever really knowing.. so here is my idea.
i hope it doesn't sound too masonic,.
Use the hi sign!
so, i was speaking with a relative recently, who is "in" the borg, but is completely aware of the terrible hypocrisy from the gb down.
he is not in the box, and its great to be able to have a realistic, and logical discussion about the current state of the org.. we started discussing, specifically, about that bunker video that was released in december.
how it is being played at all the conventions.
slimboyfat they may be thinking that way. It reminds me of a talk I heard when 9/11 happened (you know when all the halls were filled) and everyone thought we were on the cusp of the GT. The Bethel speaker reminded everyone during his talk that the GT starts when the beast turns on the harlot and eats her fleshy parts (Revelation 17:16) He said they will go after her riches and that's when everything starts. They're probably thinking that since the funds are drying up then that's how they will be spared and stand apart. Just take our property and no riches, no destruction. I wouldn't be surprised if they go belly up then that's the excuse they will use and they will have to have their meetings in bunkers!
so, i was speaking with a relative recently, who is "in" the borg, but is completely aware of the terrible hypocrisy from the gb down.
he is not in the box, and its great to be able to have a realistic, and logical discussion about the current state of the org.. we started discussing, specifically, about that bunker video that was released in december.
how it is being played at all the conventions.
What JW's don't realize is that this is already happening and been happening in the world. Jews hiding form the Inquisition, people hiding from oppressive governments, terrorists groups. People getting slaughtered in civil war. The Soviet Union shipped a lot of people to Siberia and other places. The Nazis killed the Jews. I mean really, people are hiding in all sorts of bad spots. In Russia the witnesses aren't the only religious group being banned. You can only hold the fear factor for so long. They are just waiting for us who have been in for years to die off. That's why the are prepping the young ones with Caleb & Sophia. I remember going to school in 1975 scared to death! It's like every couple of years they throw something out there to draw people back in, with fear. Heck every now and again I get that "what if they're right" thought in my head. Then things calm down and I come back to my senses. It's the "FOG", and you're right, it is wrong to play with people that way!!!
in case you read my other thread regarding my existential crisis and how it was making my life miserable and left me feeling hopeless, purposeless and joyless i though i'd share what's recently happened to me and my way of thinking and have i've for the time being resolved my existential crisis.
i write every day in a journal.
i've been doing this for years.
"that's what I'VE decided to believe"
And that's how it should be, regardless of what anyone else believes or doesn't believe!
abraham was part of the 9th generation as a descendent of shem.
yet, their lives overlapped by 150 years.
yep, they were of the same generation!
not mansfield u k , but mansfield in u s a - it doesn't look much, does it?
in fact even the uber dubs on j w talk are not impressed (that must be a first!
this thread of theirs is publicly readable:.
