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  A sincere message to those from the organisation monitoring my posts....

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so, i know there are some from my congregation or from bethel who monitor my posts..... maybe you're looking for something to catch me out?.

  just a question: rather than trying to find fault with me, have you stopped and looked into the issues or facts about the organisation that caused me to come to a place like this forum??.

  facts are there for anyone to find nowadays....one just has to be willing to pull their head out of the sand.....

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  Fisherman: Just because they aren't authorized doesn't mean that they DON'T do it.
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  Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?

  by Heisenberg in

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  they say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.

  i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.

  they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?

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  God gives solid evidence to people to experience so they can put their mind at ease and have hope -at least that is what I have personally experienced and I am not any more special than anyone.

  That's great! Can you be more specific about the nature of that evidence?
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  A sincere message to those from the organisation monitoring my posts....

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, i know there are some from my congregation or from bethel who monitor my posts..... maybe you're looking for something to catch me out?.

  just a question: rather than trying to find fault with me, have you stopped and looked into the issues or facts about the organisation that caused me to come to a place like this forum??.

  facts are there for anyone to find nowadays....one just has to be willing to pull their head out of the sand.....

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  neat blue dog: I know personally (in real life) one poster on here that is having his account monitored. They're looking to find proof that it is in fact him so he can be dealt with.
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  Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?

  by Heisenberg in

  1. watchtower
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  they say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.

  i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.

  they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?

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  Fisherman: Which God are you referring to and what evidence do you have that that God is any more true than other Gods?
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  The name of the street in warwick

  by brandnew in

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  did they name the road at warwick?

  kings dr??.

  im so sure......them gb members got some big heads!!

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  Rolex Drive
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  Just a smile? Oh dear...Disney move over...

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vrazejqhrui

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  Sounds like something you might hear on one of Christendom's radio stations.
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  I can't let go of this obsession...

  by juandefiero in

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  i really want to let go of the exjw obsession.

  but i can't.

  i keep coming here and other sites several times a day.i want to shout from the rooftops to my family and friends and say, "it's all a lie!

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  I feel like I'm in a limbo as to what to believe.

  You have to be okay with saying, "I don't know." JW's are raised to believe that all of life's complicated questions have answers in the religion. But, answers to questions must have evidence to back them up. If there is no evidence, you can't know if the answer is right or wrong.

  So, I'm okay with, "I don't know." I think it's humble to admit that you don't know something instead of arrogantly claiming that your small group of people have the answer, and that you just "have to have faith" that their answer is the right one.
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  I can't let go of this obsession...

  by juandefiero in

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  i really want to let go of the exjw obsession.

  but i can't.

  i keep coming here and other sites several times a day.i want to shout from the rooftops to my family and friends and say, "it's all a lie!

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  I really want to let go of the exJW obsession. But I can't. I keep coming here and other sites several times a day.
  I want to shout from the rooftops to my family and friends and say, "IT'S ALL A LIE!" But, they won't listen. Their cult personalities shut down and they don't give your point of view the consideration a friend or family deserves.
  They want you to conform to their ideology and way of thinking.
  I'm so tired of being in limbo.
  I want my family out of my life at this point. They will never wake up. And, quite frankly, because I love them and because of the abuse, I don't want them to. Because of my love for them, I don't want them to wake up and realize they wasted their entire lives on a bunch of lies. On the other hand, because of the abuse, I kind of want them to keep wasting their life like they wasted the 'days of my young manhood.'
  I hate them all and I love them all.
  Sorry to vent. I'm just having a really crappy day, emotionally.
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  Lurkers: Is it true that no servant of Jehovah in the bible celebrated birthdays?

  by juandefiero in

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  did you know that job's family celebrated birthdays?

  the word translated "his own day" at job 1:4 is the same word translated "day of his birth" in job 3:1. .

  seems deceptive, does it not, to change that translation.

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  If I remember from previous research on the topic the days you're referring to seemed to be celebrated in succession, so unless they were each born one day apart it wouldn't make sense. Additionally, if memory serves it was during one of those times where the kids were all killed by a tornado, again even if they were birthdays not a ringing endorsement.

  The days in succession idea is a Watchtower fabrication.

  Many commentaries agree that it was birthdays they were celebrating.

  Pulpit Commentary

  Every one his day. Most commentators regard these feasts as birthday festivities. Each son in his turn, when his birthday arrived, entertained his six brothers. Others think that each of the seven brothers had his own special day of the week on which, he received his brothers at his table, so that the feasting was continuous. But this scarcely suits the context. And it is admitted that "his day" (in Job 3:1) means "his birthday." The celebration of birthdays by means of a feast was a very widespread custom in the East.

  Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

  every one his day—namely, the birthday (Job 3:1).

  Benson Commentary

  Every one his day — Not every day of the week and of the year, which would have been burdensome to them all, and gross luxury, and which certainly such a holy man as Job would not have permitted; but each his appointed day, perhaps his birth- day, or the first day of the month. It is certain the same expression, יומו, jomo, his day, means his birth-day, Job 3:1. “The verse,” says Dr. Dodd, “might be rendered, And his sons had a constant custom to make a family feast, every one on his birth-day; and they sent and invited their three sisters,” &c. According to Herodotus, the inhabitants of the East in general, and especially the Persians, were remarkable for celebrating their birthdays with great festivity and luxury.

  Barnes' Notes on the Bible

  Every one his day - In his proper turn, or when his day came round. Perhaps it refers only to their birthdays; see Job 3:1, where the word "day" is used to denote a birthday. In early times the birthday was observed with great solemnity and rejoicing.

  
  
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  Lurkers: Is it true that no servant of Jehovah in the bible celebrated birthdays?

  by juandefiero in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  did you know that job's family celebrated birthdays?

  the word translated "his own day" at job 1:4 is the same word translated "day of his birth" in job 3:1. .

  seems deceptive, does it not, to change that translation.

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  juandefiero

  Did you know that Job's family celebrated birthdays? The word translated "his own day" at Job 1:4 is the same word translated "day of his birth" in Job 3:1.

  Seems deceptive, does it not, to change that translation. Almost as if this scripture was creating cognitive dissonance in the discerning reader.
  

  Also, regarding things that used to have pagan origins, the Awake magazine had this to say: "A main concern is, not what the practice meant hundreds of years ago, but how it is viewed today in your area. Understandably, opinions may vary from one place to another. Hence, it is wise to avoid turning such matters into big issues." - 9/22/03 Awake! p. 24

  What are your thoughts on this?