Has anyone found metaspy yet?
He did post his name on here in the past, I was able to find his facebook page.
Does anybody know him?
I found an address and phone number listed on whitepages.com, i don't know if it is current, i called, no answer (although it is after midnight).
there's a lot of rumble in the grapevine of jws that there difinitely is a new bible that 'mother' is releasing at the upcoming agm.. it would be awesome if we could get a sneak peek at some of the changes.
sure would be nice if some of the lurkers on this forum who work at bethel in the writing, shipping or printing department could help us out.
this would really irritate 'mom'!.
Well, according to the recorded conversation with Bethel Headquarters ... provided by RayPublisher here ... there are "people who are brilliant in their study of the original Greek and the original Hebrew, they're coming to new conclusions about things because of their ongoing research". Perhaps these new conclusions are incorporated in the New World Translation - Revised Edition .... or perhaps Freddy sent them some updates from his heavenly throne.
i'm 15, and i'm an unbaptized publisher... so i've been what you call "lurking" here for the past few weeks and i have some questions.
i hear you guys constantly mentioning ttatt so where can i go to learn more about this (links please)?
also i've already told my mom that i don't believe in the governing body and she is making me do even more!
Hi Demokan. Welcome.
I have a daughter that is a year older than you. For the past couple years I have been trying to help her transition out of the Organizational upbringing that I forced upon her. As her father, I thought I was doing the right thing raising her as a Witness, which no doubt your parents feel they are doing for you too.
It is a difficult road for you to be sure, but remember that in your parents mind, the JW is the only acceptable way and they don't want to lose you to the world. It would be best to be respectful of your parents, try not to be to allarming to them with what you say about the religion because they will no doubt try that much harder to bring you into line with the Organization. DO NOT GET BAPTIZED! You have your whole life ahead of you and with your eyes open now, your opportunities have increased immensely.
Best wishes.
seriously , in plain simple language that the most thick headed jw would understand.. and what examples would you use.. smiddy.
truthhurts13 ... thanks for the laugh (not that I personally agree)
i figured he was going to arrange the committee and try to get me kicked out after the whole "big pile of books" labelled "take this shit".. well his call made me realize that more and more people ... elders included no longer take this religion seriously.
after he told me he heard what happened he actually laughed and said i would never expect that.
he then told me that it is apparent that i no longer want to be connected to the organization.
Wow. Very unusual to be sure. Is he becoming a conscientious elder? Surely if you speak apostate ideas you will force his hand. Is it possible he would rather let you fade because you are useful to the local congregation with jobs and taking care of your parents?
i found a bunch of old time articles about rutherford, fred franz, shunning etc.
only problem is you need to be a time's subscriber to download the full articles.
anyone on here that subscribes could you download them and share?.
2874 = the end of the 1,000 year reign as Russell taught that Jesus returned invisibly in 1874
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/church-usher-charged-with-sexual-abuse-of-boy-parishioners-217825121.html.
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church usher charged with sexual abuse of boy parishionersmarcelo lozano, 34, faces nine felony countsby melissa pamer| thursday, aug 1, 2013 | updated 1:51 am pdtview comments ()|email|printadvertisementan usher at a jehovah's witnesses congregation in sun valley was charged wednesday with sexually abusing four boys he met at the church.. marcelo lozano, 34, is expected to be arraigned wednesday afternoon at van nuys superior court with nine felony counts, according to the los angeles county district attorneys office.. lozano, who was an usher for the churchs spanish congregation, allegedly abused boys who ranged from 8 to 15 years old between 2006 and 2013.. he is charged with two counts each of aggravated sexual assault of a child, continuous sexual abuse and oral copulation of a person under 14. and he faces one count each of forcible lewd act upon a child, lewd act upon a child and sodomy of a person under 14 with 10 years difference.. prosecutors will recommend that the defendants bail be set at $1.8 million, the das office said.. lozano faces a maximum term of life in state prison if convicted on all charges.. the los angeles police department is still investigating the case, the das office said.. .
letter from a close family member... need help responding.... what a powerful illustration of the affect that our choice of friends can have on us, especially if we leave jehovah after being 'raised' by him from infancy!.
pack of wolvesthere was a farmer who raised sheep and had trouble with wolves stealing his sheep.
he loved his sheep and didn't want to lose even one of them.
hi Miss confused. Do some research on the logical fallacy appeal to pathos and then suggest to your close family member to do the same.
sorry to raymond and cynthia franz for expelling them on trumped-up charges and forcing them from there bethel home.. sorry for demonizing many of raymond's accomplishmets, such as 'the aid to bible understanding' (the blue book) that he had a hand in putting together and that too many old timers remember who grew fond of reading to expand their bible knowledge.. sorry to oompa for disfellowshipping him and causing him to be shunned to the point where he couldn't take it any longer and wound up taking his own life.
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sorry seems to be the hardest word for the wtbts to say!.
Sorry is to admit fault
Admitting fault is to open oneself to lawsuits
Watchtower says one reason you can trust Bible writers is because they were candid about their own faults
Watchtower is not candid about it's faults and deflects and spins with its PR department
Watchtower is a business and follows legal advice to protect assets
Watchtower won't say it is sorry or responsible
It is one of the realities that helped me recognize the Watchtower as something less than I once believed it was
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