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  me--outside Ryde kingdum hall --UK

  by bigmac in

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  mindnumbed

  Nice Pics!

  Your license plate must be a talking point for JW's!

  (They used the wrong term on the sign, WATCHTOWER is the magazine, WATCH TOWER is the corporation.)
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  Another Revised NWT Thread - subtly sowing seeds of doubt with chart

  by mindnumbed in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  pages 1744 thru 1746 feature a chart of the kings of the southern kingdom, ending with zedekiah in 607.. praise the new bible and all of the teaching aids .... draw attention to kings list and how convenient that is ... but, strangely, i decided to look up information in an encyclopedia about the different kings, and the dates are not the same ... so i checked a couple of sources and they are all different than the chart in the bible .... why would that be?.

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  King of Judah	Jewish Virtual Library	New World Translation
  Rehoboam	928-911	997-980
  Abijah	911-908	980-978
  Asa	908-867	978-937
  Jehoshaphat	867-851	937-913
  Jehoram	851-843	913-906
  Ahaziah/Jehoahaz	843-842	906-905
  Athaliah	842-836	905-898
  Joash/Jehoash	836-799	898-858
  Amaziah	799-786	858-929
  Uzziah	786-758	829-777
  Jotham	758-742	777-762
  Ahaz	742-726	762-746
  Hezekiah	726-697	746-716
  Manessah	697-642	716-661
  Amon	642-640	661-659
  Josiah	640-609	659-628
  Jehoahaz	609-608	628
  Jehoiakim/Eliakim	609-597	628-618
  Jehoiachin	597	618-617
  Zedekiah	597-587	617-607
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  I have a live one lol

  by paranoia agent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cov9xvrq1p8.

  check the comment section for jw raiden25256666 posts, he just called me an idiot lol.

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  The kid doesn't look like a very happy person if his picture is an accurate representation.

  With all of the anti-jw videos he is watching and commenting on, it will all build and hit him one day. He's doing exactly what the GB doesn't want, he thinks he is defending truth while in reality he is filling his mind with things that will eat away at the foundation of his religion.
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  It appears the Ex-JW community is having a huge impact on the way funerals are being handled at the KH

  by StoneWall in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just wanted everyone to know that i got back today/night from my second jw funeral in less than 3 months and that both of them (2 different halls),were handled completely different than in times past.. used to be it seemed like a recruitment opportunity (as many of you have pointed out before), but these last two times it was totally different from previous times.

  it didn't seem like they used the outline at all that had been posted in another thread a while back.. that was kinda interesting and refreshing at the same time to actually hear them focus more on the individual that had passed instead of only a few minutes about them and the rest all about the org.

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  on the one hand, this is certainly a good thing, although I doubt it is organizational policy, if it were, we would see a letter from the Organization

  on the other hand, in some ways the Organization is trying to put on a softer appearance now days, however, as long as they continue to influence so much control on friendships, education, shunning, etc., the softening in some areas just makes it easier for the mind to go along with the cult
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  Jehovah in the New Testament (New NWT bible )

  by jhine in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have just seen in the flesh , or paper , the new nwt .

  my witness friends were delighted with it showing me all the new features like the glossary of terms and explanations of the hows and whys .

  i did ask about actual content , acting daft not letting on that i knew anything about it .

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  My JW contact told me that all the bracketed words from the former JW Bible have been deleted because those weren't in the original manuscripts.

  JWOP, If that is what your contact said, they didn't really understand the explanation as to why the brackets were removed.
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  Jehovah in the New Testament (New NWT bible )

  by jhine in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have just seen in the flesh , or paper , the new nwt .

  my witness friends were delighted with it showing me all the new features like the glossary of terms and explanations of the hows and whys .

  i did ask about actual content , acting daft not letting on that i knew anything about it .

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  I book that JW's love to refer to is Truth in Translation by Jason BeDuhn as it commends the New World Translation as one of the most accurate modern translations, however, he addresses the issue of Jehovah in the New Testament as being a deviation from being a literal translation as there are no fragments that support this decision.

  Also, it is okay to refer to this work of BeDuhn as the Organization actually quotes the book in an Awake! article in support of the New World Translation.
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  Bible printing, a loss of money for the WTS

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so i brought this up in another thread... but i think it needs its own discussion.. having had one of the new grey leatherette and silver edged bibles with the new appendixes in my hand.

  i immediately thought of all the custom covered nwt bibles you see some publishers sporting at meetings.

  also the fact that the co's and wives who'd been given one had to turn it back in seemed very off-putting.. .

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  The [brackets] were removed from the hard cover edition, which is what was used for custom binding, while the deluxe edition and the reference Bible used the brackets.
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  Another Revised NWT Thread - subtly sowing seeds of doubt with chart

  by mindnumbed in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  pages 1744 thru 1746 feature a chart of the kings of the southern kingdom, ending with zedekiah in 607.. praise the new bible and all of the teaching aids .... draw attention to kings list and how convenient that is ... but, strangely, i decided to look up information in an encyclopedia about the different kings, and the dates are not the same ... so i checked a couple of sources and they are all different than the chart in the bible .... why would that be?.

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  Yes. We know that most entrenched JW's will come to the conclusion that every other source is influenced by Satan to discredit the truth as revealed through God's Organization, the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society Incorporated.

  However, it seems it can be an innocent enough way to get a person to think. If introduced innocently, it may start the ball rolling, some will no doubt research the subject, it may be a seed added to past moments of cognitive dissonance or it may just be the first.

  When I was mentally in, one of the projects I would think about from time to time was to look up historical references about dates, not to disprove JW, because I just assumed everything I was taught was correct, but to bolster my knowledge.
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  1 Sam.14:31-35 The soldiers of Saul disobeyed Gods law regarding blood and were excused.Does the NNWT bible contain this account?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i`m just curious if this account is in their grey bible.

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  31 On that day they kept
  striking down the Phi·lis′tines
  from Mich′mash to Ai′ja·lon, and
  the people became very tired.
  32 So the people began rushing
  greedily at the spoil, and they
  took sheep and cattle and calves
  and slaughtered them on the
  ground, and they ate the meat
  along with the blood. 33 So
  it was reported to Saul: “Look!
  The people are sinning against
  Jehovah by eating meat with the
  blood.” At this he said: “You
  have acted faithlessly. Roll a
  large stone to me immediately.”
  34 Saul then said: “Spread
  out among the people and say
  to them, ‘Each of you must
  bring his bull and his sheep and
  slaughter them here and then
  eat them. Do not sin against Jehovah
  by eating meat with
  the blood.’” So each of them
  brought his bull with him that
  night and slaughtered it there.
  35 And Saul built an altar to Jehovah.
  This was the first altar
  he built to Jehovah.
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  Another Revised NWT Thread - subtly sowing seeds of doubt with chart

  by mindnumbed in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  pages 1744 thru 1746 feature a chart of the kings of the southern kingdom, ending with zedekiah in 607.. praise the new bible and all of the teaching aids .... draw attention to kings list and how convenient that is ... but, strangely, i decided to look up information in an encyclopedia about the different kings, and the dates are not the same ... so i checked a couple of sources and they are all different than the chart in the bible .... why would that be?.

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  Mention to the JW ... Here is a list of the kings from Jewish Virtual Library, why would a Jewish source have different dates concerning their own history? Isn't that odd? Maybe I should write the Organization and let them know the chart is wrong.

  http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Judah.html