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  Is it OK for JW employees to sell lottery tickets?

  by Iamallcool in

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  i do remember reading an article that it is not ok for jw to sell cigarettes at gas stations, etc... i was wondering what about lottery tickets?

  they do sell lottery tickets at few restaurants around my home.

  if jw works there and rats me out to the elders, i would not give a damn about it but i still prefer not to hear from the elders about it..

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  I seem to remember working for the UN is also prohibited among JWs.

  Evidently becoming a NGO member of the UN is OK though!!
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  How many JWs still have a personal conscience?

  by contramundum in

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  2. friends

  in conversation with an old jw friend today, it struck me that most jws have replaced their personal conscience with a collective one.. instead of training their own mental powers to distinguish right from wrong, as the bible encourages, they are content to shift personal accountability away from themselves and onto the impersonal org.

  whatever behaviour may prompt an ordinary person to have serious misgivings ( such as ignoring glaring misapplication of scripture or rejecting basic human decency in favour of unchristian shunning ) they prefer to have those decisions made for them.. history teaches us, however, that there is no absolution for people who behave unethically or cruelly by allowing the excuse of 'obeying orders' to override what their inner voice should scream is inherently wrong..

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  contramundum

  In conversation with an old JW friend today, it struck me that most JWs have replaced their personal conscience with a collective one.

  Instead of training their own mental powers to distinguish right from wrong, as the Bible encourages, they are content to shift personal accountability away from themselves and onto the impersonal Org. Whatever behaviour may prompt an ordinary person to have serious misgivings ( such as ignoring glaring misapplication of scripture or rejecting basic human decency in favour of unchristian shunning ) they prefer to have those decisions made for them.

  History teaches us, however, that there is no absolution for people who behave unethically or cruelly by allowing the excuse of 'obeying orders' to override what their inner voice should scream is inherently wrong.
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  Governing Body Discontinues the New World Translation as 'OLD Light'???

  by Ruby 1976 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i just saw this posted on a facebook group.

  anyone know if there is any truth to this?.

  http://www.exjehovahswitness.com/gb-discontinues-new-world-translation-as-old-light.html.

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  Did someone challenge them to see how many spelling mistakes they could fit into one article? 😶
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  Clearly, they're hunting down irregular publishers

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  look at this graph:.

  it has the % difference between the peak number of publishers and the average number of publishers for that year.

  this number can only be positive.. what the graph tells us is that there is a clear trend towards hunting down inactive and/or irregular publishers.

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  When I became an irregular publisher, as a prelude to my fade, the congregation secretary phoned for my report religiously every month . As soon as the six month deadline was up and I became officially inactive, he gave up.

  That was over a year ago - I've not moved address or changed my phone numbers ( he used to try both my mobile and landline ) however I've not heard from him since.
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  JWs Excited Trump Won

  by LaurenM in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am incredibly disturbed.

  many of the jws i'm still friends with on facebook are incredibly excited that trump won the american presidential race, posting, "yay!

  i'm so happy!

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  An older JW friend recently told me her reasoning as to why Armageddon is imminent:

  "If Hillary Clinton becomes US president, along with a female British Prime Minister and a lady German Chancellor - this is in blatant opposition to the Bible standard of female submission. With women holding such positions of power on the global stage, how can the world possibly survive?

  The clearest sign yet how mad the world has become ; how far we have strayed from God's purposes for men's and women's natural roles.

  Yes, Armageddon has never been closer."

  A hastily contrived coughing fit disguised my involuntary snort of laughter 😁
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  Speaker and Interpreter Ratings

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  september 27, 2016 to all bodies of elders re: recommending convention speakers and interpreters.

  september 28, 2016 to all bodies of elders having bethel brothers in their congregation re: convention speaker ratings for bethel brothers.

  s-315-e 9/16 speaker and interpreter ratings.

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  "Does he have a reputation for being opinionated and dogmatic? Is he known as one who is harsh in judgment? Does he view his own opinion on matters as the final word?"

  Surely, the main question should not be whether brothers displaying that sort of attitude are recommended as convention speakers, but rather whether they should be shepherds in the congregation at all.
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  Latest Ancient Coin - 660 Year Old Fourpence

  by cofty in

  1. social
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  after a very quiet couple of hours detecting this afternoon i was chuffed to find this silver coin.. it is a groat of edward iii of england.

  for a long time the only coin available was the silver penny.

  if you wanted to spend half a penny or a quarter you literally cut it up.

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  That is simply amazing !
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  After 52 years a Watchtower slave 9/11 gave me the push I needed to get out.

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i turned in my letter of disassociation on september 18, 2001 but it was 9/11 that showed me what the witnesses really feel about human lives and the future wished for.. i was in limbo after my wife of 27 years left me on july 30, 2001. she knew i wasn't buying the jw program anymore.

  she told me she come back to me when "i got my head straighten out about god and the church".. so for 40 days i was in limbo.

  i stopped going to meetings.

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  Even as a child it never made sense to me that anyone dying before Armageddon would get a resurrection, whereas if God's judgement came just one day later there would be no hope for those that died.

  To my innocent , childish mind that meant survival was purely a matter of chance. It hardly seemed fair.
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  Religion's evil folly of stigmatizing doubt.

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  punishing doubt - theramintrees (jws get mentioned in this one.).

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdtzbvlg3ni.

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  contramundum

  Very thought provoking.

  Thank you for posting this
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  Handels Messiah

  by zeb in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itmjvvld9ok.

  moving best i have seen and live recorded too!.

  peace.

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  I had the fortune of being surrounded by this incredible music when my school put on a performance of the Messiah one year.

  Sadly, because of the religious content of the lyrics, I made the decision not to take part in the singing even though my teachers insisted I attended every rehearsal and the final performance.

  I remember my heart swelling as the wonderful sound filled the great hall around me and I wished I could have been part of that collective voice.