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  Jupiter protects the earth... another example of intellectual dishonesty and an argument against design

  by cognisonance in

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  i'm taking a university astronomy course, and i must say it's really fun to read about this field.

  anyway, i remember the jws used to use jupiter (and probably still do) as an example for how unique and special our solar system is (and thus designed) -- namely, that jupiter protects the earth from astroids, comets, and meteors.

  convincing if one doesn't know any better, especially circa 1994 when jupiter stepped in front of a comet for us... but this isn't the full story!

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  Stan: "Isnt jupiter another word for jehovah"

  By Jove, I think he's right!!

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  Speaking for God: The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Tahoe in

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  very well put together!.

  https://youtu.be/yyxg8klhtve.

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  The GB imagine women dream: "if-if-if I-I were a man, I'd do this and I'd do that...."

  I can already do absolutely anything I wish to do, often better than a lot of men. Why on earth would I want to be a man??
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  What is behind your choice of forum user name?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. friends

  just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.

  there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.

  i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.

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  Contra mundum = against the world (Latin)

  I walked away from everything I had known and believed my whole life.
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  What woke you up?

  by MrRoboto in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for me, i think it was just the right time as i was starting to wake up on other fronts as well (anyone who had went through these will know what i mean).

  but it started when i was looking for what info goes on a publisher card, which led to me reading one person's story (ex bethelite) which was pretty crazy to an all-in jw but who trusts those apostates...?.

  then i started watching videos on cults, as if my subconscious was trying to tell my concord mind something... when i saw a particular one about a young man in lds getting ready to start their 2 year preaching campaign, including a school, social activities etc, i realized that i couldn't tell the difference between the folks of this mormon cult and the jws (save for some religious differences) .

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  For me, the catalyst was when I started using the Interlinear for my personal bible reading and realised the divine name was nowhere to be found in the original manuscripts.

  I read and re read the Gospels and even went so far as to count the number of times WT had erroneously inserted the name Jehovah.

  Until that time, I had implicit faith in the Organisation but this deliberate and inexcusable attempt at deception shattered my trust overnight. I slowly examined all the teachings I had questioned over the years and found many had no sound scriptural basis.

  When a close friend suggested I research Ray Franz, I initially resisted, still hesitant to look at anything remotely considered apostate, but the more I questioned, the more I became mentally free. I eventually downloaded C of C and what I read shocked me into a decison.

  From that moment I resolved to engineer my fade, no longer wanting to be associated with an organisation I now knew to be harmful and corrupt.
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  We are becoming champions of grief. We lost twin B.

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  last week we had a reassurance ultrasound with our ob.

  she was just supposed to check heartbeats on the two little ones and they were going strong!

  but because she had extra time and she can be quite anal about her work (which is a good thing) she decided to take some measurements.

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  So sorry

  
  
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  Another recorded Judicial Meeting...

  by NikL in

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  i've listened to quite a few but for some reason, this one has me really angry.. my heart goes out to the young family dealing with this bull shite.. give a listen.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifkpiqigq9c.

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  The elders' definition of apostasy was deviating from the "customary" beliefs of JWs. How often have the GB changed these customary beliefs, thereby apostasising from the faith?

  By their own standards they condemn themselves.

  This JC was nothing short of a witch hunt, conducted by blinkered men unable to form any reasoned opinion for themselves and with one agenda - to remove "disease" from the congregation. At what point does a JW lose their humanity? Their attitude was utterly shameful.

  In contrast, the couple were dignified, honest and remained true to their own personal integrity. I wish them the very best.
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  Papal Bulla - Latest Metal Detecting Find

  by cofty in

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  2. physical

  i was out detecting this evening for an hour after work and found this amazing bit of history.. it is a lead seal that originated on a document from pope martin v at some time between 1417 and 1431. these official documents were called papal bulls and were dispatched to all the parishes in the medieval empire.

  this example has later been made into a spindle whorl which is why it has a hole through the centre.

  lead whorls were used before spinning wheels were invented to make yarn of sheep's wool.. the inscription "spaspe" stands for "sanctus paulus sanctus petrus" and the two busts are of paul and peter.. the reverse has "martinus pp.

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  Amazing find
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  New letter about Circuit Conventions accounting procedures

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
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  i hope that one of the friends will post the letter soon.

  i heard that on 3/27/2017 a letter with new instructions about the accounts at the circuit conventions was released.

  the letter seems to adopt many of the corrections that had been suggested here at the forum, among other things during the accounts report they will be no mention of the per capita and the amount due is going to be released only to the elders.

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  If they are so concerned that "an equalising takes place", maybe it can be suggested that the incredibly wealthy WTS share their $s with the poorer members of the congregations.

  I would vote for that resolution

  CM
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  Memorial Non-Attendance: The Single Most Impactful TTATT Witness to JW Friends & Family

  by AMNESIANO in

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  (original version posted 2014).

  notice: the following is submitted in full recognition of and with compassion and due respect for those who, due to personal circumstance, feel they are unable to employ this powerful strategy.. ---.

  anyone who has awakened to ttatt and has conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent, highly-regarded, studious true-believer from a celebrated multi-generational tribe of jws-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole watchtower bamboozle.

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  This will be my first year of non attendance. For those in the congregation who knew me well, it will send the message that being missing from the meetings for the last few months is a conscious decision, one not taken lightly.
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  Circuit Assemblies in the "Good Old Days"

  by BluesBrother in

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  2. friends

  just been reminiscing about how c/a's have changed since we were young.

  i remember when they started friday night in some rented hall , as well as the two weekend days.

  saturday morning was a brief session then field ministry (which only a few performed ) and sunday sessions.. in the free time around the venue we just used to hang out socialising and eyeing up the girls.

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  I remember Dorking as a child , and the walk to the park every lunchtime (as long as we weren't allocated the third sitting for lunch when we had to wait in a queue on the stairs for what seemed an eternity).

  A brother in my congregation was a trained chef and often used to supervise the kitchen .