Posts by contramundum

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Explain why you are happy if you believe there is no afterlife vs when you joined JW's

by Bad_Wolf in

one thing that has intrigued me are so many who have left, who are wholly convinced everything in existence is merely by chance now, also claim they wouldn't want to live forever, and perfectly fine if this is the only life.

now, i would understand that if you were raised into the religion.

i was raised into it.

contramundum

From a child the idea of living on and on forever frightened me. When I became an adult, that fear never left me because I just could not comprehend the idea of eternity. My coping mechanism was to look ahead only as far as the end of Jesus' thousand year reign - a finite point in the future.

Nobody I knew seemed to experience the same feeling of dread and because we were taught that God had put thoughts of time indefinite into our hearts, I wondered why it wasn't in mine. Maybe I wasn't supposed to make it into paradise.

I do not want to die, but at the same time, now I have left the religion, I don't fear death as much as I feared living forever.

CM

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Just thought I'd share. New up coming apostate

by joe134cd in

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links

just listened to this delightful young irish lass and just thought i'd share.

a pleasure to listen to her.

well spoken and presents a good argument.. https://youtu.be/qitwc2qumgs.

contramundum

Just listened to the whole of the clip. She talks a lot of sense.

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Unbelievable!

by The Fall Guy in

witness: yes.

attorney: and what were you doing at that time?

witness: yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and

contramundum

Brilliant 😂

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Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.

by Wasanelder Once in

roll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.

in one sentence tell why you left the org.

not 2 sentences.

contramundum

Realising the org cared more about outward appearance than people, followed by discovering the hypocrisy and false teachings.

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Memorial.. To go or not to go

by Emily1987 in

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so, as some of you will know myself and my husband are in the process of fading.

haven't been to a meeting since beginning of 2017. .

we weren't planning on going to the memorial, but last week my mother broke down and said that we have to go to the memorial even if it's the only meeting i go to this year.

contramundum

An old JW friend stopped in his car as he passed me walking through town yesterday. After the usual friendly pleasantries :

He: "Do you know what's on this Saturday?"

Me: "Yes"

He: " Will we see you there?"

Me: (firmly and decidedly) " No. I will not be going"

I know its far more difficult when dealing with family and the emotional repercussions that entails , but I have found that being determined and making it clear I will not compromise on my resolve and the issue is not open for discussion works for me.

That being said, I am always friendly and positive and its clear to anyone who speaks to me how genuinely happy I am with my life now.

I am one of the lucky ones who has managed to walk away with minimum damage.

My thoughts are with all those who still struggle with the guilt imposed on them by others.

CM

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Another trolley (That's Cart to Americanos), encounter today.

by punkofnice in

i couldn't bleedin' well resist it.

there were these 2 jobo blokes standing behind a jobot trolley.

jobo, 'what's that?'.

contramundum

I also like cake 🎂 😀

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Lurkers

by Freedom rocks in

do you think elders and gb members monitor this site to catch people?.

contramundum

When I joined this site 2 years ago I recognised a friend from their posts, so it is possible.

I have never breathed a word to anyone else, only that friend, but the knowledge that we can be recognised by our words was enough to prevent them from posting for a some time.

I felt responsible for limiting their freedom of speech for a while.

I am sorry, my friend x

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It saddens me to know that marriages break up because of religion and the blame, whose fault it is ?

by smiddy3 in

a jehovah`s witness couple who have been married for many years and some with children of various ages and have been serving in their congregation meeting attendance, fs and bible studies with their children for many years .. and then one of them begins to have doubts about what they are being taught and what they actually are supposed to believe now that some changes have been made with nu-lite.. the doubts grow and then the the use of the internet to investigate further some of the claims of the gb/wt religion .. with the wealth of information available on the www it now becomes impossible to continue to be an active member of the jehovah`s witness religion without being an utter hypocrite .

you no longer believe them anymore that they alone are gods chosen people in this day.. however your spouse does not see things the way you do not at all and after many months of arguments bickering threats the ultimatum is something like if you don`t believe what i believe that you have left jehovah we can`t live together anymore ,i want a divorce unless you come to your senses.. who is the one here breaking up the marriage ?.

isn`t it in the majority of cases the jw who ends the marriage ?

contramundum

Totally agree with you Steve2

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no...No...NOOO...JW's are not a cult!

by FedUpJW in

just read this over on jw talk:.

will we be willing to leave unbelieving mates and unresponsive kids behind when given direction on what to do???

what about grandkids who fall under their parents who are not witnesses???

contramundum

@ttdtt...

Yet if you try to post facts or personal experiences which cast WT in the slightest shadow, those that police JWTalk refuse to allow that post to be shown.

When I was a member of that forum, all my posts were vetted before they became public. No wonder the comments are, without exception, totally pro JW.

CM

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Is it 16?

by Jrjw in

hi can anyone tell me if it's true the society says parents must take their child to meetings until they're 16 even if they don't want to?

my ex is being a pain about me not forcing my 12 year old to be a witness.

he doesn't know i'm becoming inactive at moment so i have to be careful how i word things to him.

contramundum

While I was still in, my daughter stopped attending meetings at the age of 14.

A friend at the time told me I should just "force" her to come with me.

I replied that as a single mother, with my daughter the same height and weight as me, "forcing" her to go with me would entail physically holding her down, dressing her, taking hold of her and violently dragging her out of the house, into the car and into the kingdom hall.

Could he explain to me just how I should manage that, and how he considered any part of that scenario would be appropriate, ethical, Christian and not completely abusive?