for decades, critics have pointed out the unfairness of god slaughtering billions in a future armageddon who never even met a jw much less heard their life-saving message.
(remember the contortions around the collective responsibility of nations?
) also, why do babies and children have to die simply because their parents rejected the witnesses?
It is clear they are saying there is no difference between those alive at Armageddon to everyone who has died throughout all of history. This is very very clearly the new light,
there will be a resurrection of the unrighteous and if you are alive or die before it makes no difference
it is stupid new light, but it is definitely what they say. The earth is no way large enough for billions to survive Armageddon and then for many more billions to be resurrected.
this former kingdom hall is now a hindu swaminarayan temple!
to the far right of the picture, the two tower pillars are obvious by the red and green flags.
https://pdfupload.io/docs/d8e6115a .
I remember back in the 80s and 90s around peak JW many ‘false religious’ meeting places were going down in numbers, the JWs were going up.
they often bought other places of worship as other sects were downsizing and the JWs needed larger places.
now it seems to be the opposite
one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
.a very significant percentage of JWs are actually either PIMOs or PIMOs in the making.
This is so true. There is a scale of 1-100.
100 is total belief in everything the GB says is from Jehovah and is true. These would shun everyone the GB tells them to.
Hardly anyone is up near 100 these days, even the staunch PIMIs are less than 90 and these are few and far between. These would shun most most people they were told to unless it was a loved one then if it was a very close loved one they would certainly think twice about obeying the GBs direction to shun.
The majority of most congregations are at about 50. They think the GB are doing their best but they may be wrong about lots of things like 1914. They would not shun loved ones close to them if the GB directed them to and they probably won’t shun others either if they are good people.
The rest are well below 50 on the scale and they know in their heart that the GB are almost certainly wrong about almost everything. They will not obey the GB directions to shun anyone they will think for themselves
Reading through those JW testimonials is so sad.
So many similar stories like “My congregation is full of people sick from the vaccine
cancers and heart problems are common
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Pretty sure Lloyd threatened Tibor with a lawsuit as well, and since Tibor is based in Croatia and seemed to be in fear of Lloyd, I'm not surprised he disappeared
Lloyd has lost all credibility and can’t threaten anyone with lawsuits ever again
In my congregation some were talking on zoom about if they should go and get latest boosters.
Someone said until we get new direction from the GB then we should just follow the current direction and trust Jehovah
so only elders know about the U turn
rank and file still think the direction is to keep going for your boosters
some people are on nine now
Praying about what to do and then saying God has given direction to take these vaccines just makes no sense to me at all. This is the pink elephant in the room.
Yes they wish they could go back in time and change to a neutral stance but they can’t.
This really is the pink elephant with purple spots in the room and now they want everyone to not talk about this U turn, it’s too late.
How can JWs not talk about this huge elephant in the room. Are we supposed to forget that the GB gave this direction? You can’t forget there were too many heated debates about the GB direction.
I remember all the divisions that were very heated, these divisions were caused by the GB direction.
Some did have doubts about the safety of these injections but they trusted the GB to such an extent they concluded that the shots must be safe.
Thankfully their trust in the GB has been shattered but it’s too late they have had multiple spike protein shots and damaged their health
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
He is trying not to be as late as usual but he is still a few days later than every other xjw utuber
I think he wants to watch everyone else and steal all their work
one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
If they did have new light on shunning they could certainly play it so that they get more bums on seats plus more money in the coffers.
They announce that it’s so close to just around the corner final part of final part that Jehovah really wants people to return to him.
They could have a big push to get all those who left to return and tie this in with no more shunning.
An excuse to drop the shunning would be how loving and kind Jehovah is, he wants one last chance for family to contact disfellowshipped ones and tell them Jehovah still loves them.
They could tie it in with 2023 AGM new light about last min repentance and only the really bad people won’t get a resurrection or will be killed at Armageddon.
https://www.jwupdates.com/post/watchtower-will-take-norwegian-defeat-to-echr.
few norwegian religious communities need to worry after the jehovah's witnesses verdict, according to legal expert vibeke blaker strand.
he has pointed out that it is particularly serious to deprive a religious community of its registration.
They will not challenge
more likely they will have to go alone with it and stop the shunning policies
