Posts by Mikejw

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Reddit thread on convention video urging cutting off contact with Faders

by LongHairGal in

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i just read this.

don’t know if anybody here has seen the video.. the intended result of this is to obviously scare ‘faders’ out of the shadows.

now, they are being threatened with loss of association with their loved ones and friends.

Mikejw

Many large multigenerational JW families have family members only staying physically in for other family members. When the parents die, the other members are starting to fade.

they are openly talking about things at the funerals that the only reason they stayed physically in was because of the elderly parents who just died.

its as if they didn’t want to tell their elderly parents they didn’t believe the GB anymore. If they did it would be very cruel for an elderly one to hear just before they die.

this is probably true all around the world. Sunk cost fallacy and not wanting elderly relatives to understand they have wasted their lives believing something that was lies.

siblings can now openly talk about how they were mislead into making decisions decades ago based on the lie that the end would come soon.

now they are elderly themselves

no wonder this convention is trying to do damage control but it’s backfiring.

all the changes that you can now talk to disfellowshiped ones, but they are saying cut off those who are physically in but mentally questioning

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Mikejw

How much income and expenses does he have?

income

- **YouTube Ad Revenue** (from his channel *John Cedars* / *Lloyd Evans*)

- **Patreon or Donations** (many content creators in this niche rely on supporter contributions)

- **Book Sales** (he has written books about his experiences)

- **Podcast Sponsorships** (if his show has advertisers)

As for expenses, they would include typical costs like:

- Video production (equipment, editing software)

- Website hosting (cheapass bedsit)

- Taxes and business-related expenses

If you're looking for exact numbers, they aren't publicly available unless he shares them himself.

What would estimates be?

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Where r we now?

by sparrowdown in

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post covid, post trump, post cedarsgate, post tony morris, post arc… where r we now?.

Mikejw

People both in and out have noticed, do less, care less. It’s become more of a social club in most congregations and the rules that govern even amongst the elders would once have been considered by grown-ins only appropriate for the spiritually weak and morally loose.

This is so true. It’s just a social club very lighthearted compared to years gone by.

anything goes, as long as they don’t rub the elders face in it, birthdays are almost a thing but they call them happy days and maybe have it a day or so either side of the actual birthday.

all the things that I remember from the 1970s and 80s are all out the window now.

young people are leaving in droves and they are desperate to try and get them to stay

its almost impossible for a young one to get expelled these days

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Where r we now?

by sparrowdown in

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post covid, post trump, post cedarsgate, post tony morris, post arc… where r we now?.

Mikejw

Post Covid where we are now is that we know the vaccine was very very harmful and it was wrong to say it was safe

Post Cedars gate he is now stuck in a country which he doesn’t speak the language on his own in a cheap little flat. His children have a new stepdad and they seem to be thriving.

Tony Morris the third still hasn’t surfaced. We still have no idea what went happened.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Mikejw

This is what AI says about old neck beard

As of mid 2025, there is no publicly available information confirming Lloyd Evans’ current relationship status. Following his separation from his wife, Dijana, in early 2022, Evans has not disclosed any new relationships. While there have been reports of him participating in speed dating events and traveling to Thailand, these accounts do not confirm a committed relationship.

There is no credible or verified information indicating that Lloyd Evans, a former Jehovah’s Witness elder and prominent activist, has ever been a drug addict. Publicly available sources, including his own admissions and third-party reports, do not mention any involvement with drug use or addiction.

Lloyd Evans has been open about personal controversies, particularly regarding marital infidelity and his use of sex workers over several years. He addressed these issues in a livestream in early 2022, acknowledging the behavior and attributing it, in part, to sexual repression experienced during his time in the Jehovah’s Witnesses . These revelations led to significant fallout within the ex-JW community, including the loss of professional relationships and public criticism.

However, none of these controversies involve drug use. While some online discussions have speculated about his mental health or personal behavior, there is no substantiated claim or evidence linking him to drug addiction .

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2025 Convention. How to deal with PIMOs in the Congregation. Copy Jesus in the way he dealt with Satan on the MT.

by liam in

the video on apostates in the congregation and how to deal with them at the 18 minute mark.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1kssfr9/2025_convention_apostate_video/.

so by now, a lot of us have seen a clip from the "apostate" video from the 2025 convention.

Mikejw

The GB and any J-Dumbs who trusted the GB during Covid should be panicking as it’s now proven that the Jabs increased all cause mortality across the world. Oopsie!!!

Nice to know they are still a Watchtarded Cult of Watchtarded Watchtards.

DD

Only recently they played the clip David Splain saying would Jehovah really let the GB take these vaccines if they were harmful?

he then said he comes down to this folks do you believe this organisation is run by Jehovah of a humans?

Yes, he’s absolutely right. That’s what it comes down to. Are the vaccines harmful or not?

yes they are harmful and yes this is a human run organisation

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PIMA is best so it’s not a shock to the system if the tower collapsed

by JohnR1975 in

i know most people here are totally out and that’s fine.. many these days are staying physically in for the social life and that is also fine.. i feel being fully mentally in is dangerous as it could be such a shock mentally if or should i say when the tower collapsed.. im sitting in the fence like so many others here.

mentally agnostic if god exists or not and if the bible is his word.. when i talk to people who are physically and mentally still in i can tell that they so need it to be true.

i’m worried for them when they wake up to the fact that they have been lied to 1914 wasn’t true 1975 wasn’t true 1999 wasn’t true and now here we are 2025 it’s all not true.

Mikejw

I prefer being a 'Beroean' PIMA

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2025 Convention. How to deal with PIMOs in the Congregation. Copy Jesus in the way he dealt with Satan on the MT.

by liam in

the video on apostates in the congregation and how to deal with them at the 18 minute mark.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1kssfr9/2025_convention_apostate_video/.

so by now, a lot of us have seen a clip from the "apostate" video from the 2025 convention.

Mikejw

But the “apostate’s” reasoning was surprisingly grounded. He said things like “I’m keeping an open mind and finding answers to my questions,” and “How do you know it’s garbage if you haven’t even read it?”

And here’s what’s wild: the PIMI character had no actual arguments. He just shut the conversation down and threatened to report the guy.

I think this will backfire. All parents will be wondering if their children should be thinking about things or just not asking questions?

It’s obvious children should be asking questions. And now parents are told to just shut them down trust the fat old men in upstate NY don’t question them at all.

I thought JWs were all about study and if there is something you don’t understand then study so you do understand it.

but now it seems to be if there is something that you don’t understand say 607 1914 for example don’t whatever you do go and do research don’t Google it do not do research do not study just trust the fat old man in upstate New York whatever you do don’t question 607 and 1914

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The Governing Body is Restructuring the Org.and encouranging young ones to REACH OUT!

by liam in

the governing body just doesn't let up on encouraging the young children to reach out to do free labor for the organization.

so another generation of young people with ruined lives.

another generation of young people that will get old and wake up in their 50s to realize they were in a religious doomsday cult.. and they are getting rid of some old workers that ran the branches of the organization, and giving them different assignments or maybe they are just sending them home, who knows.

Mikejw

Yes, I certainly did know that people who are ‘cast aside’ (a polite term for being kicked out of bethel) 🤣 were told to ‘expect’ help from Witness relatives and friends in their ‘old’ congregation.

The problem is those people may not agree with this.. It’s one thing to get someone a bag of groceries until they get back on their feet. But let’s be honest here. These people who are in advanced age - are not getting ‘back on their feet’. They are expecting to be supported pure and simple. Hope everybody realizes this.

What makes matters worse is that some are made special pioneers which means they get rent paid no matter how much it goes up.

special pioneers nowadays only have to do 70 hours a month and they get paid a wage for that I remember having to do 90 and have a part-time job on top of that

The special pioneers get all the rent paid matter how much the rent goes up with inflation they get their allowance which is often on top of the state pension so they’re much better often than state pensioners and they can still go to Bethel for the free dentist Optition doctors even have volunteered Sister is coming to give massages and reflexology things like that

Is now a wide gap between the special pioneers and those who are kicked out of Bethel for old age who are not special pioneers

Everyone hates it when the special pioneers answer up about how well looked after their yes of course you are good for you

I think the old Brother from the 60s and 70s never thought this through

They never thought we’d get to 2025 and all the young Bethel lights and thought the end was right around the corner and now having to get up three or four times a night to take a pee

what if the end doesn’t come another 10 years 2035? There’s gonna be so many old Bethel lights there will be a burden on the congregations. This is why they’re trying to kick out as many older ones now before they get to be a burden on the branch office.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Mikejw

His two daughters are a long way from being adults yet. So I don’t know why he says they don’t need their father around anymore, what they need is a good father. But he obviously realises that they are soon going to be the age where they find out all the truth about Lloyd and his activities with prostitution.

This would absolutely disgust a daughter who finds this out about their biological father. Any woman will feel shame and hatred for her father when they find out.

I wonder if he will try saying that is what I used to be like but I have cleaned up my life now?

Ad they have a new step father they will obviously compare