i have been away from the jw cult for many years.
i don't have any family i talk to that are in it.
so i don't know if the jws as a whole are seeing the cult fall apart or if they or the majority of them are head in the sand la la la the end is neigh.
This weeks mid week meeting was crazy
they played the clip David Splain saying would Jehovah let the GB take the vaccine if it was harmful
then straight after in the book study they talked about circumcising and saying this medical procedure was a matter of choice
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
49 mins into his latest livestream Arther says yea let’s get the old panel back together then Lloyd has an u comfortable laugh and says I’m not sure all the old panelist’s would come back
then Arther says well let’s call it the current iteration
i have been away from the jw cult for many years.
i don't have any family i talk to that are in it.
so i don't know if the jws as a whole are seeing the cult fall apart or if they or the majority of them are head in the sand la la la the end is neigh.
have an old JW pimo acquaintance I speak with weekly. He has been open about his doubts and criticisms of the governing body and false prophecies with over a dozen elders privately over the last 3 years. Privately they AGREED with him and never turned him in!!!! He has also dated a dozen single sisters he confided his doubts with...and they agreed with him!! Go figure...no one has reported him! That would be different 20 years ago
This is most JWs these days. They are openly expressing doubts about the vaccine and saying maybe the GB gave wrong direction.
it funny because everytime a WTower or meeting part comes up they always bring up how the COVID directive protecting us
i know most people here are totally out and that’s fine.. many these days are staying physically in for the social life and that is also fine.. i feel being fully mentally in is dangerous as it could be such a shock mentally if or should i say when the tower collapsed.. im sitting in the fence like so many others here.
mentally agnostic if god exists or not and if the bible is his word.. when i talk to people who are physically and mentally still in i can tell that they so need it to be true.
i’m worried for them when they wake up to the fact that they have been lied to 1914 wasn’t true 1975 wasn’t true 1999 wasn’t true and now here we are 2025 it’s all not true.
The only truly happy still in JWs I know are what a friend and I call "Jet Set" witnesses.
They several things in common:
#1 They have plenty of money. They inherited it or ignored the endless counsel to "put Kingdom interests first" during their earning years.
#2 They are fun-loving. No Debbie Downers allowed.
#3 They ONLY travel, party, and closely associate with people who keep their MOUTHS SHUT about "questionable conduct" within the group.
#4 They are in reasonably good or better health.
Yes all those things are to be encouraged with JWlite!
there is a 90 days sanction (rest basically) if you are caught celebrating birthdays or something and you are not repentant. If you say sorry and you agree with the GB nothing will happen.
if you say you don’t quite agree with the GB on this and you are not sorry then the 90 things comes into play.
what this means is there will be an announcement that so and so is no longer a JW. 90 days later the elders are told to grovel and beg the person to agree to return to the congregation. The CO has to tell the elders off and ask why enough wasn’t done to get them to return with the 90 rule.
my oh my how things have changed
i know most people here are totally out and that’s fine.. many these days are staying physically in for the social life and that is also fine.. i feel being fully mentally in is dangerous as it could be such a shock mentally if or should i say when the tower collapsed.. im sitting in the fence like so many others here.
mentally agnostic if god exists or not and if the bible is his word.. when i talk to people who are physically and mentally still in i can tell that they so need it to be true.
i’m worried for them when they wake up to the fact that they have been lied to 1914 wasn’t true 1975 wasn’t true 1999 wasn’t true and now here we are 2025 it’s all not true.
It’s a social club at this point and for the older Witnesses there just coasting, that’s fine for them.
It’s a social club for everyone these days. The young ones only stay for the friends in the cong.
we are all just coasting even the elders it’s easy being JWlite! You could turn upto any meeting and give any part with zero preparation. It’s all just videos and q&a!
its been compared to being a Trekkie or similar
you may not like Star Trek anymore but still go to events to see the people you have known for years.
you know Star Trek is fictional but its nice fictional and maybe some tiny parts may have a even tinier slithering of a resemblance of truth in the future
i really like the red pill analogy in the matrix.
the one guy wishes he didn’t take the red pill and would have preferred to take the blue pill.. many used to be pimi which is the blue pill and then they wake up to the fact that the gb are not who they claim to be which is taking the red pill.. they go through conflict and confusion as to what to believe now?
does god exist?
JWLite is like Cypher from the Matrix movies, you’ve been red pilled but you want to be reintegrated into the Matrix as a rich and famous character, if they could only see what you believe is correct. In the end you’re just the annoying side character that ends up dead and forgotten.
What if cypher could take the blue pill and be aware that the red pill exists? This is the purple pill.
What this means is you wake up to the fact that JWs are just a human run organisation. The GB are just fat old men who have inherited some crazy teachings that they are going to find it very difficult to get out of.
but you quite like the Bible and the friends in the gong.
why not stay physically in JWlite. Only go occasionally if or when you feel like it. If you celebrate birthdays or do anything that used to get you into trouble just keep a low profile.
the worst that could ever happen is a 90 day sanction but during those 90 days the elders have to grovel to get you to return. The CO has to ask why wasn’t more done to get this one to return with the new 90 day rule?
i really like the red pill analogy in the matrix.
the one guy wishes he didn’t take the red pill and would have preferred to take the blue pill.. many used to be pimi which is the blue pill and then they wake up to the fact that the gb are not who they claim to be which is taking the red pill.. they go through conflict and confusion as to what to believe now?
does god exist?
It’s a social club at this point and for the older Witnesses there just coasting, that’s fine for them.
It’s a social club for everyone these days. The young ones only stay for the friends in the cong.
we are all just coasting even the elders it’s easy being JWlite! You could turn upto any meeting and give any part with zero preparation. It’s all just videos and q&a!
its been compared to being a Trekkie or similar
you may not like Star Trek anymore but still go to events to see the people you have known for years.
you know Star Trek is fictional but its nice fictional and maybe some tiny parts may have a even tinier slithering of a resemblance of truth in the future.
i now view jwlite like the trekkie conventions.
star trek is fiction and all the fans know this full well.
but they find it beneficial.
It’s a social club at this point and for the older Witnesses there just coasting, that’s fine for them.
It’s a social club for everyone these days. The young ones only stay for the friends in the cong.
we are all just coasting even the elders it’s easy being JWlite! You could turn upto any meeting and give any part with zero preparation. It’s all just videos and q&a!
its been compared to being a Trekkie or similar
you may not like Star Trek anymore but still go to events to see the people you have known for years.
you know Star Trek is fictional but its nice fictional and maybe some tiny parts may have a even tinier slithering of a resemblance of truth in the future
i have been away from the jw cult for many years.
i don't have any family i talk to that are in it.
so i don't know if the jws as a whole are seeing the cult fall apart or if they or the majority of them are head in the sand la la la the end is neigh.
It’s a social club at this point and for the older Witnesses there just coasting, that’s fine for them.
It’s a social club for everyone these days. The young ones only stay for the friends in the cong.
we are all just coasting even the elders it’s easy being JWlite! You could turn upto any meeting and give any part with zero preparation. It’s all just videos and q&a!
its been compared to being a Trekkie or similar
you may not like Star Trek anymore but still go to events to see the people you have known for years.
you know Star Trek is fictional but its nice fictional and maybe some tiny parts may have a even tinier slithering of a resemblance of truth in the future
may 2025 study article 21 seek the city that will remain.
what i remember was, when you see the romans, flee to the mountains.
now the wt is saying that's not enough.
Everyone should make a point of answering up paragraph 13 “ Jehovah protected his people he made it so clear not to believe the conspiracy theories that the vaccine was not safe, we are all so pleased we could trust the vaccines when so many were saying not to”
this should wake up everyone in the congregation
