The answer is just say no. If the elders say can you take this young one with you then you have to say no.
Mikejw
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Children dumped at ministry group
by Mikejw init’s not right for children to be forced to come to ministry groups on their own without their parents.
the parents just expect others to look after them.. we have this happening at our group all the time.
early teens and even younger.. the parents just want them out of the house for a bit and put the burden on others to look after them and get them home safely.. there should be an announcement or something that youths need to be accompanied by a responsible adult and not just dumped at the group on their own.. who is supposed to look after them?.
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Children dumped at ministry group
by Mikejw init’s not right for children to be forced to come to ministry groups on their own without their parents.
the parents just expect others to look after them.. we have this happening at our group all the time.
early teens and even younger.. the parents just want them out of the house for a bit and put the burden on others to look after them and get them home safely.. there should be an announcement or something that youths need to be accompanied by a responsible adult and not just dumped at the group on their own.. who is supposed to look after them?.
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Mikejw
It’s not right for children to be forced to come to ministry groups on their own without their parents. The parents just expect others to look after them.
We have this happening at our group all the time. Early teens and even younger.
the parents just want them out of the house for a bit and put the burden on others to look after them and get them home safely.
There should be an announcement or something that youths need to be accompanied by a responsible adult and not just dumped at the group on their own.
who is supposed to look after them?
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Disaster preparedness
by ElderBerry inas your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
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Mikejw
It’s better to have a go bag and not need it than to need a go bag and not have it
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Disaster preparedness
by ElderBerry inas your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
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Mikejw
I find it farcical, tragic and infuriating to think of my old Mum being frightened and manipulated like this.
So much for mainstreaming.
You sound very selfish. You should be grateful that your mum is being looked after in the event of a disaster. How is she being manipulated by being asked to get a go bag ready and be aware of plans in event of emergency? She doesn’t have to go with the congregation. If you or other family members want to take care of her then that would be the best option. Or she may decide to stay if or when the congregation decides to bug out.
the group overseer and assistants just has to make sure she is ok and if there is anything she needs. She will be asked to have a go bag ready and months worth of medication using the oldest first.
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Disaster preparedness
by ElderBerry inas your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
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Mikejw
Thus if I have to evacuate, my plan is to bug out with one or two well chosen small family groups, people with a similar basic mindset as me, who already have enough to care for their own immediate needs ... but can add something to the collective. However if they are not ready when its time to go, then I'm leaving without them.
Yes this is my plan. I’m a group overseer and my assistant is very capable. Him and his wife have good jobs and spend a fair bit on survival preps.
As a congregation we regularly do camping trips and a little bit of survival training.
We will get a balanced view of older ones and what is best for them. Most times they will choose to stay even if it means they will die, they don’t want to be a burden on younger ones.
There was a JW prepper book series called Flee by EK Jonathan. It was very good actually.
https://youtu.be/lNpGRllxwuk?si=epNsH8GtoVw6UTS3
The local branch offices go to a lot of effort having brothers meet JWs along the way giving food and fuel, repairing vehicles as needed.
The disaster relief committees have things very well planned out. But the very sensitive issue of older and infirm ones being left behind to die is covered in a dignified way. These ones don’t want to be a burden on others and they don’t want to to leave. Give them the choice.
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Disaster preparedness
by ElderBerry inas your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
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Mikejw
Yes, if it’s a localized disaster it might work. But, if it’s a big or national disaster, it won’t help them
If it’s a huge disaster it will take longer to organise but the idea is JWs just outside the affected countries will take in displaced JWs. Yes internationally if needed but as close as possible. It could be a long way away.
The branch offices have disaster relief committees set up and they all have trucking departments ready to bring aid or bring people out. Even flights or boats. The transport department is experienced at getting fast visas and papers for all missionaries who sometimes need to be moved quickly.
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Disaster preparedness
by ElderBerry inas your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
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Mikejw
Forgive my ignorance (I've been out for almost 25 years) but is this 'go-bag' preparedness a global thing? Is my 80 year old Mother living in the English shires and shopping at Morrisons once a week really being instructed to do this?
Yes every year they have to replace with new supplies. You can be sure her group overseer and his assistant will look after her if disastrous events happen.
however if she is unaffected but lives just outside the disaster zone then she may be asked to take in other JWs displaced by whatever happened
the same as everyone
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Where is Tony?
by Athanasius inon february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
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Mikejw
The apologists on Quora have answered the question
What is that? Who are these apologists and how do they claim to know? Where did this rumour start?
I have contacts who are top dogs in Bethel and they never heard of Tony falling asleep
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Where is Tony?
by Athanasius inon february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
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Mikejw
The silence is deafening. This was a serious project to keep a lid on this, some effort and a lot of money has been put in.
they think it will go away but the longer they kick the can the worse it will be when it hits the wall
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Disaster preparedness
by ElderBerry inas your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
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Mikejw
If you have a van or big SUV, you can make that your temp home in case shit hits the fan. You can drive a few hours away, sleep in it, keep emergency items in it, and get away from crowds who will exhaust resources
Yep, this is the JW plan. Everyone takes with them their go bags and the reasonable amount of food and supplies that every JW has been told to get.
First we all go to our KHall if that is an option but if not every congregation has an emergency RV.
It’s usually a large retail estate with large car parks. Each group with 16 or so people so maybe 3 or 4 vehicles have been assigned different general parking areas so as to spread out and not draw attention.
the group overseers and their assistants are to make sure everyone is accounted for.
then the disaster relief committees will give directions what to do next. Most probably go to nearest congregations that have not been affected by the disaster whatever it was.