probably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.
in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?
" by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.
Todays WTower doubled down on 1914 and Jesus sat on his throne in that year.
but they twisted the truth a bit saying the early JWs looked to that year making it sound like they were right about it all.
no the truth is they were wrong before and they are still wrong now
Did anyone else notice that paragraph in last Sundays Watchtower?
as your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
If there is something like a nuclear, biological or chemical attack in one area then survivors are to head to nearest safe area. Or any other situation where you have to leave your area. The congregations in surrounding areas will be asked to house displaced JWs.
It will be a voluntary thing but those who say no I can’t have anyone in my home will stand out compared to those who volunteer to have people sleeping on the floor.
The point is everyone should help each other related in the faith. And when there is a disaster that displaces lots of people there needs to be good organisation.
GB update number 3 showed some areas affected by draught and other area’s flooding. Humans are ruining the earth and there will be more of this going forward. Disaster relief committees need to be well organised to help in the best ways.
Also the way the West is pushing Russia and China and the banking system near to collapse, there is more of a need to have go bags and a bug out plan than ever before.
Brics currency could replace the dollar and when currencies collapse there could be chaos. I think you are much better off being part of a well organised community than being a lone wolf.
probably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.
in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?
" by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.
Todays WTower doubled down on 1914 and Jesus sat on his throne in that year.
but they twisted the truth a bit saying the early JWs looked to that year making it sound like they were right about it all.
no the truth is they were wrong before and they are still wrong now
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Are you at all worried that Lloyd will end his life?
the more you post on that channel really shows nothing can be hidden online these days
it’s not right for children to be forced to come to ministry groups on their own without their parents.
the parents just expect others to look after them.. we have this happening at our group all the time.
early teens and even younger.. the parents just want them out of the house for a bit and put the burden on others to look after them and get them home safely.. there should be an announcement or something that youths need to be accompanied by a responsible adult and not just dumped at the group on their own.. who is supposed to look after them?.
The answer is just say no. If the elders say can you take this young one with you then you have to say no.
it’s not right for children to be forced to come to ministry groups on their own without their parents.
the parents just expect others to look after them.. we have this happening at our group all the time.
early teens and even younger.. the parents just want them out of the house for a bit and put the burden on others to look after them and get them home safely.. there should be an announcement or something that youths need to be accompanied by a responsible adult and not just dumped at the group on their own.. who is supposed to look after them?.
It’s not right for children to be forced to come to ministry groups on their own without their parents. The parents just expect others to look after them.
We have this happening at our group all the time. Early teens and even younger.
the parents just want them out of the house for a bit and put the burden on others to look after them and get them home safely.
There should be an announcement or something that youths need to be accompanied by a responsible adult and not just dumped at the group on their own.
who is supposed to look after them?
as your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
It’s better to have a go bag and not need it than to need a go bag and not have it
as your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
I find it farcical, tragic and infuriating to think of my old Mum being frightened and manipulated like this.
So much for mainstreaming.
You sound very selfish. You should be grateful that your mum is being looked after in the event of a disaster. How is she being manipulated by being asked to get a go bag ready and be aware of plans in event of emergency? She doesn’t have to go with the congregation. If you or other family members want to take care of her then that would be the best option. Or she may decide to stay if or when the congregation decides to bug out.
the group overseer and assistants just has to make sure she is ok and if there is anything she needs. She will be asked to have a go bag ready and months worth of medication using the oldest first.
as your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
Thus if I have to evacuate, my plan is to bug out with one or two well chosen small family groups, people with a similar basic mindset as me, who already have enough to care for their own immediate needs ... but can add something to the collective. However if they are not ready when its time to go, then I'm leaving without them.
Yes this is my plan. I’m a group overseer and my assistant is very capable. Him and his wife have good jobs and spend a fair bit on survival preps.
As a congregation we regularly do camping trips and a little bit of survival training.
We will get a balanced view of older ones and what is best for them. Most times they will choose to stay even if it means they will die, they don’t want to be a burden on younger ones.
There was a JW prepper book series called Flee by EK Jonathan. It was very good actually.
https://youtu.be/lNpGRllxwuk?si=epNsH8GtoVw6UTS3
The local branch offices go to a lot of effort having brothers meet JWs along the way giving food and fuel, repairing vehicles as needed.
The disaster relief committees have things very well planned out. But the very sensitive issue of older and infirm ones being left behind to die is covered in a dignified way. These ones don’t want to be a burden on others and they don’t want to to leave. Give them the choice.
as your family considers its disaster preparedness plan, please ensure that the secretary has up-to-date contact information for you and your emergency contact.
also, we have re- peatedly seen good results when brothers and sisters are prepared with go bags and are ready to obey direction when they face various kinds of disasters.
please be sure you have a go bag, and review its contents at least once a year.
Yes, if it’s a localized disaster it might work. But, if it’s a big or national disaster, it won’t help them
If it’s a huge disaster it will take longer to organise but the idea is JWs just outside the affected countries will take in displaced JWs. Yes internationally if needed but as close as possible. It could be a long way away.
The branch offices have disaster relief committees set up and they all have trucking departments ready to bring aid or bring people out. Even flights or boats. The transport department is experienced at getting fast visas and papers for all missionaries who sometimes need to be moved quickly.
