Posts by JohnR1975

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What the new JW light position really is 👍

by ElderBerry in

i’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.

as my fellow elders are.

we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.

JohnR1975

My problem is that I just don't get how any human being with a decent dose of comprehension and compassion and a sense of justice could be anything "light" in this world we live in. I was JW "heavy,"

This is true of every single religion. There are some heavy into it and they say to those who are light into it “My problem is that I just don't get how any human being with a decent dose of comprehension and compassion and a sense of justice could be light into this religion”

Lutheran lite, episcopalian lite, Presbyterian lite....I can see. But JW lite?

Islam light, Jewish light, Hindu light, Buddhist light?

Think about evolution light? Or apathetic light? Then there is agnostic light?

whatever your beliefs are I think it’s the correct view the course of wisdom to be aware you may not be correct about what you believe?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

JohnR1975

I wonder if this interviewer knew his past

https://youtu.be/FZQZEwtTG0U

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Do JWs see the org falling apart?

by ThomasDam21 in

i have been away from the jw cult for many years.

i don't have any family i talk to that are in it.

so i don't know if the jws as a whole are seeing the cult fall apart or if they or the majority of them are head in the sand la la la the end is neigh.

JohnR1975

I know most people here are totally out and that’s fine.
Many these days are staying physically in for the social life and that is also fine.
I feel being fully mentally in is dangerous as it could be such a shock mentally if or should I say when the tower collapsed.
Im sitting in the fence like so many others here. Mentally Agnostic if God exists or not and if the Bible is his word.
When I talk to people who are physically and mentally still in I can tell that they so need it to be true. I’m worried for them when they wake up to the fact that they have been lied to 1914 wasn’t true 1975 wasn’t true 1999 wasn’t true and now here we are 2025 it’s all not true. I’m worried that mentally it’s very very dangerous and this is why many will go downhill mentally or may even take their own lives.
Ita far as safer to be physically in for the amazing social life and the fact they are so well taken care of but mentally either out or at least agnostic leaving room for the fact that the witnesses may be true about some things and it is beneficial to live by Bible standards, possibly I don’t know for sure.
It’s a paradox because some PIMIs are so genuinely happy due to beliefs that are not true. But they have this hope so real that they are happy now because they genuinely believe the Bibles promises.
The same can be said for many other belief systems, Buddhist and Islam beliefs if they are fully indoctrinated they are happy believing something that is not true.
its very dangerous though if you wake up before you die then its very hard to cope with the fact that you believed something that wasn’t true all your life.
this is why I think either PIMA or POMA is safest.
it’s amazing how it comes into conversations when I’m talking to someone and in their mind the end is really literally just around the corner so of course it affects the decisions they make and when they’re asking me about decisions I make I gotta be careful that it doesn’t come across that I don’t think the end is just around the corner and I need to plan a head and I’m thinking about retirement whereas they absolutely are not which I think is also very dangerous
some other things that I hear them talk about it’s obvious that they genuinely believe the governing body. They really literally are gods spokesperson on Earth and they refer to being obedient to the governing body like being obedient to Jehovah and when I talk about the vaccine they genuinely believe that Jehovah wants them to keep taking the booster shots. Jehovah told them it was safe the governing body whatever they say. It’s just like Jehovah saying and Jehovah told them the vaccine is safe and effective and it’s all lies that it causes blood blood clots that’s all lies from Satan‘s world and apostatethey keep going to take their boosters.

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PIMA is best so it’s not a shock to the system if the tower collapsed

by JohnR1975 in

i know most people here are totally out and that’s fine.. many these days are staying physically in for the social life and that is also fine.. i feel being fully mentally in is dangerous as it could be such a shock mentally if or should i say when the tower collapsed.. im sitting in the fence like so many others here.

mentally agnostic if god exists or not and if the bible is his word.. when i talk to people who are physically and mentally still in i can tell that they so need it to be true.

i’m worried for them when they wake up to the fact that they have been lied to 1914 wasn’t true 1975 wasn’t true 1999 wasn’t true and now here we are 2025 it’s all not true.

JohnR1975

I know most people here are totally out and that’s fine.

Many these days are staying physically in for the social life and that is also fine.

I feel being fully mentally in is dangerous as it could be such a shock mentally if or should I say when the tower collapsed.

Im sitting in the fence like so many others here. Mentally Agnostic if God exists or not and if the Bible is his word.

When I talk to people who are physically and mentally still in I can tell that they so need it to be true. I’m worried for them when they wake up to the fact that they have been lied to 1914 wasn’t true 1975 wasn’t true 1999 wasn’t true and now here we are 2025 it’s all not true. I’m worried that mentally it’s very very dangerous and this is why many will go downhill mentally or may even take their own lives.

Ita far as safer to be physically in for the amazing social life and the fact they are so well taken care of but mentally either out or at least agnostic leaving room for the fact that the witnesses may be true about some things and it is beneficial to live by Bible standards, possibly I don’t know for sure.

It’s a paradox because some PIMIs are so genuinely happy due to beliefs that are not true. But they have this hope so real that they are happy now because they genuinely believe the Bibles promises.

The same can be said for many other belief systems, Buddhist and Islam beliefs if they are fully indoctrinated they are happy believing something that is not true.

its very dangerous though if you wake up before you die then its very hard to cope with the fact that you believed something that wasn’t true all your life.

this is why I think either PIMA or POMA is safest

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

JohnR1975

It’s obvious to anyone that he needs to start working hard, why not put some serious work in on your own to create some good or even excellent content Lloyd.

no more halfhearted fluff that is not worth clicking on.

there should be so much content out there now and reasons for making good videos that could help people wake up to the watchtower. Why doesn’t he make videos every couple of days that after watching the viewers think that was great well done for such hard work that was put into that.

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U turn on LGBT

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

feb broadcast they have a drama about someone who works with a colleague who is gay.. they actually make it sound like the jws are the only ones who support him and is tolerant of him and everyone else is against him🤣.

after all these years they try gaslighting and saying we are the ones who are tolerant and everyone else is not!!!.

you couldn’t make this up.. after this monumental u turn now, what about all the gay people who were born in’s who have been shunned by their own family?.

JohnR1975

So from now on we can have work or school friends who are gay?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

JohnR1975

Surely it’s possible for someone to check her social media and find out if this new boyfriend has moved in or whatever?

lots of things point towards that.

Lloyd talked about it in his rambling video in his bedsit. In that video he says he is really struggling with mental health

he says things going on it’s been emotionally challenging

could this be his kids new step dad?

then he talks nonsense about illegal drugs and shrooms for ages.

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Reddit thread - ‘Organization Finally Suggesting to Plan for Retirement’

by LongHairGal in

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this information is supposed to be in the upcoming march wt.

(i don’t go on jw dot org).

it would sound like they are hinting at a change in thinking.. in my opinion, any such change would be yet another slap in the face to faithful pimis along with those other recent changes.. there are so many heartfelt responses on that thread and a lot of justified anger.. don’t know what to say except that i’m so glad i never listened to the religion all those years ago.

JohnR1975

ukpimo8 days ago

I know many here and even on reddit have said that the 10 year plan was fake, but I do have to say despite no clear plan the org do seem to be resetting themselves to appear more likeable to outsiders.

Birthdays next?

They can’t go full U turn saying further education is fine, because even more yang ones would wake up.

but they are encouraging getting better pay then saving and investing

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

JohnR1975

Serious question, what does Lard Evans do all day?

he has no job no friends and hinted at not needing to spend time with his daughters now they have a new step dad.

why is he even still living in a country where he still can’t speak the language?

he lives in a cheap dump bedsit with paper thin walls. His evenings must be so lonely and depressing

he makes a half hearted video once in a blue moon

what does he do all day? He has nothing in his life at all anymore no wonder he has problems with prostitution and drugs.

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"instructions that aren't sound by a human standpoint"

by mikeflood in

what could be "an instruction not sound by a human standpoint"?.

i'm going by dissolving their legal entities...any guesses?.

JohnR1975

The direction to Keep going to get latest booster of the clot shot don’t make sense from a human standpoint!!!!