judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.
imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.
by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.
Another $4,000 gone to day,on another post they tell you that in the uk a court in leicester have fined the jws over £1 million pounds for court costs in a child abuse case.We are working our way through the money from the family silver arnt we
They haven't been fined. The other side have been awarded costs which could be estimated at around a million.
your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
I'm only mildly surprised that no one has mentioned that on the first page of this thread, the OP, a person with zero training in chemistry, much less organic chemistry, admitted that they are using their own made-up, not actual definitions for things.
Sorry, I was late to the thread. ;)
your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
I don’t find this source credible. The website is called nature publishing group. Is this group run by chemists or other people who don’t have scientific credentials?
As oppose to your credentials......?
your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
Landy,
Your questions are relevant and sensible and I will respond when I get time
Don't worry about it - the questions were rhetorical.
your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
Good point snare.
It is isn't it. How do you defend the point? If evolution is guided how do you explain that and the lots of other issues evolution has introduced?
your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
As an aside, the same process that gives us evolution and diversity.....gives us cancer. But I assume nobody (outside of the USA) wants to state God guides that?
I think if god had guided evolution he maybe should have done a better job and steered round the numerous strange effects that evolution has given us.
my heart goes out for all people stuck in all high control groups, either with insight into the falsehood of their beliefs or none.. to remain a member whilst knowing it false however, must be soul destroying.. my question is, would you carry on living the lie if you discovered that we get one life, one go at existing.
it's short, it's fragile and nobody in 100 years will care we even existed..... .......if you came to that realisation would you quit?.
.......if you had children, would you leave in order to set them an example in strength and appreciation of the short time we enjoy?.
No
Yes
Yes
the watchtower today says not to think of sex, or to have sexual fantasies.
i'm just wondering... how many people in the hall hearing this watchtower today would be having sexual fantasies?
sitting there thinking about sister hottie or brother hunky ?.
I should go and tell the elders that I have sexual fantasies that all the elders are naked in a room and doing each other. See what they have to say.
Thanks for that mental image! :(
jw don't believe in evolution .
how come animals teeth are designed to chew meat?
sharks for instance have razor sharp pointy teeth these are not to eat vegetation .
If god didn't intend us to eat animals he wouldn't have made them taste so nice.
she turned one today, and 36 earlier this week.
we planned a big party, big for two people that have never thrown a party before.
we rented a church fellowship hall because 1. it was nice and big and affordable and 2. it was kind of awesome to throw a party in a place we would have never ventured in our previous life.
I remember our kids' first Xmas after we wrapped in going. They were just at the right age and it was a wonderful day.
