ever since i came out of the witnesses, i've become very political.. i've heard lots of arguments back and forth for many things.. in the u.s. there is the argument that it is "racist" to want to deny entry to muslims.
while there is freedom of religion, there is also the very valid concern of maintaining democracy and a justice system that is based on modern values.we as exjw's constantly quote the pew center for statistics on jw's such as: they are last place in the us for members of a religion that go to university, and second-last for poverty levels of members of a religion.
we accept those statistics and mention them as proof of how damaging the jw's are.now, let's use the same center for some very scary statistics on islam:http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/.
Just saw a great quote from philosopher Karl Popper in "The Open Society and Its Enemies" which he described this as “the paradox of tolerance”:
You may want to read Plato and how democracy will inevitably lead into tyranny and despotism - I think he was talking about Trump in particular!
so a young baptized brother gets to run the microphones.
so he eagerly runs up and down the isle passing the microphone.
he's so happy because "he's being used by jehovah".
I am a witness, but not a kool-aide drinking witness.
Is that not an oxymoron?
i try not to think about it everyday but every now and then i seem to get very down about the fact that i see my adoptive children being raised as jehovah's witnesses.
they are 10 and 13 years of age.
my wife continues to raise them in this religion.
I seem to get very down about the fact that I see my adoptive children being raised as Jehovah's Witnesses.
A couple of things stood out in the OP. One, you say 'adoptive' children. This could mean that you and your wfe did adopt two children, in which case you would perhaps be less likely to call them adoptive and just say 'children'. I could be wrong but I suspect they're your step-children in which case you have very little rights to access (even if they were your biological children you would still have suprisingly little in the way of rights). Anything you do which may cause your wife to have doubts about your influence on them is likely to cause you an issue with access.
Secondly, you say that 'you' get very down about it. This doesn't mean that your kids are down about it. I suspect they are leading a happy life and are being well cared for. Any doubts or conflicts you raise with your children now, at a time in their life when they are totally dependent on their mother and are absolutely unable to do anything about it, is going to have a upsetting affect on them.
Perhaps keeping your feelings about the JWs in check until they are of an age when they can make their own decisions is the best thing to do for the kids.
The only caveat I would make about that is with regard to baptism, if that rears its head before they are of a sensible age I would bring it up with their mother.
i try not to think about it everyday but every now and then i seem to get very down about the fact that i see my adoptive children being raised as jehovah's witnesses.
they are 10 and 13 years of age.
my wife continues to raise them in this religion.
I think if the mother has custody it's up to her to decide at the moment.
When they're a bit older and are able to make a more independent decision, say 16/17 then that may be the time to talk to them about your feelings. But until then, just make sure you keep these lines of communication open. Good luck.
ok so there's no other jws in earshot and your on the ministry, the hh comes to the door, what would you say to them about jws if you could?.
would you explain why your there when you don't want to be?.
would you warn them about it being a cult?.
Would you explain why your there when you don't want to be?
I would have to try to explain that to myself first. That would be the hardest conversation.
fyi from north-east england:.
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/johovahs-witness-abused-girls-after-12538877.
jehovah's witness abused girls after luring them with video games, court told.
Now that this man is found innocent. What is everyone's opinion should be his relationship with Watchtower and the local congregation. Since he is not a child molester should he be allowed to be reinstated and appointed?
I'm not sure what the WTS guidelines are in this situation - I suspect they treat the JC as totally independent of the court case and that he will stay disfellowshipped.
That said, according to the article and what the girls said he did, I'm not sure that fits the category of the 'gross sin' as regards the WTS.
i was at the meeting last night and the dreadful video about caleb and sparlock was forced upon the audience.
honestly, i had forgotten how bad it was.
the mother's manipulative over-reaction and caleb's acceptance that his toy was evil.
I was at the meeting last night and .......
I was outside on car park duty. A much coveted position of service in our hall, even the cold and snow is preferable to sitting in that blicks.
I was at the cinema with the family having a good time.
https://youtu.be/qvm1prhnoci.
i'm not sure if anyone has already posted this link or info on deborah frances white.
i just wanted to share for anyone interested in hearing her experience.
Her presentations are professional, well-scripted and laugh-out-loud hilarious - even nonJWs find her work interesting and funny. Highly recommended!
Perhaps more so as she doesn't let being an ex-jw define her.
There's no mention of it on her website and rightly so.
i grew up in the org and never got baptised, however i was wondering recently about how much money my family and old friends are wasting in all that.
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i remember of course never talking in amounts, that it was important to give from what you can not what you have etc but i admit i have no clue how much the average witness gives (say in % of their income).. i'm sure it varies greatly, i'd love to hear what you guys have to say..
I used to donate about 100.00 per month.
Now I donate around around twenty times that amount as a Christian and never seem to miss it.
Jesus - I bet they absolutely love you!
so i was checking out the website to see what the february broadcast was all about before i watched it with my jw wife.. on the front page was this video.... https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodbible/pub-jwbai_201607_1_video.
i watched it and pretended i had never been a jw.. if you pretend you don't understand their particular language it makes for a interesting (if not vague) watch.. btw i've seen several of the actors before.
jw version of movie stars?
For someone has no problem with bone cancer in kids or genocide their god seems to be overly concerned with what two people do in their bedroom.
