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  Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.

  it's heading towards $900,000 now..

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  Landy

  Never heard of him.

  I'm not sure you can compare the witnesses to the Catholic Church or the Scouts however. They're simply not big enough to catch the national media in a sustained campaign in the way the two organisations you mentioned are.

  Don't get me wrong, any article or publicity exposing the poor practices they have is good news but it's never going to be page 1 in a sustained way.

  What we need is an organisation to bring legal charges against the WT directors if they don't change their practices. Unfortunately I'm not sure such a mechanism exists.

  Even the ARC, as damning as it was, has no authority to effect any change.

  Edit - the biggest exposure their practices have had in the U.K. Was the panorama documentary, but just checked and that was 15 years ago.
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  Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.

  it's heading towards $900,000 now..

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  Landy

  why did Trey Bundy from NPR, and PBS just do reports on them

  Who?
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  Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.

  it's heading towards $900,000 now..

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  Landy

  Tell you what lits - you stop naming me in every post and I'll stop calling you a mentalist. How's that?
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  Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.

  it's heading towards $900,000 now..

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  Landy

  @ OC
  

  It is time it changed - the JW safeguarding processes have been deplorable in the past. There is evidence that they are finally changing procedures.

  It all seems to happen at a local level though. The incident that brought me here after not giving them a thought for the last twenty years was a newspaper article about local elder who had been found guilty of having indecent images on his PC. But, as they say, today's newspaper is tomorrow's fish and chip paper and the incident will have been forgotten by the local people.

  Even though I'm an atheist, one of the fundamental rights a person has is a freedom to follow a religion of their choice and that includes those who want to be a JW. I have no desire to go to my still believing relatives and trash their religion even though I think it's a load of rubbish - it's up to them what they believe and I don't have the right to tell them not to.

  Lke a lot of religions they do need to look at safeguarding policies and hopefully the attention from the ARC and the UK CC will force change on them. This will happen out of the view of the general public though because the general public simply don't give a shit about a nothing religion.
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  Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.

  it's heading towards $900,000 now..

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  Landy

  I find it amusing that those who were intolerant of other viewpoints as witnesses are sometimes just as intolerant of other viewponts when they become vehement ex-witnesses.

  Your overly dramatic posting style is something to behold. Keep it up!
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  Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.

  it's heading towards $900,000 now..

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  Landy

  Whatever we think about this, in the end, the WT will be made to pay. It may not be the justice system-heavenly or earthly, but humanity has had enough of this in even the most backward places. The times are a changing and they can't hide anymore and that is worth plenty, in my book.

  I think you give them too much credit. Humanity doesn't give be a shit about the JWs - thankfully they're insignificant. To everyone that isn't a witness or ex-witness they're a bunch of slighty odd but generally nice people who disturb them on a Sunday morning.

  If you asked 100 people if they had heard of the AR commission, I would be amazed if even one had.
  
  
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  Flip Flops to Nowhere

  by Lostandfound in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how long until wt has flip flopped its way back to anything of the faith many of us knew?

  who are the now dead ones giving evidence of their non captivity to babylon etc?

  i would not recognise what goes on in a kh now and i was in since 60s when we had firm beliefs, now being eroded little by little.

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  Landy

  ..or something! :D
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  No Longer a JW Expert But Starting to Figure Out Life

  by AllTimeJeff in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  consider this an update for those that remember me here.... when i left in 2006, it started a 10 year journey into a new phase.

  no more "safety".

  some people want to be their own person.

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  Landy

  You make your choices, as did I. It's difficult to move forward looking over your shoulder so put any negative thoughts about JWism to bed and enjoy your life.
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  So what caused you to have doubts in the first place?

  by nicolaou in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had no doubts at all about the 'truth' untill a friend of mine in the cong' began falling away.

  in trying to help him i had to ask questions and do research and that of course cracked the doors of my mind open for the first time in over thirty years.. years ago, when jwd allowed members to have signatures, i used the following quote from voltaire as mine.

  i still love it.. doubt is uncomfortable, certainty is ridiculous..

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  Landy

  The blue creation book and the half truths, misquotes and strawmen it contained.
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  Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.

  it's heading towards $900,000 now..

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  Landy

  Sure, Richard gives the forum balance - his views are always slanted to show the Watchtower in the best light. He gives the facts but he doesn't always present them without bias, and he doesn't always give all the facts.

  Well it not like there's no bias the other way on here so maybe that's not a bad thing?

  I've got no love for JW org but being away from it for 20 years has left me ambivalent - you could say I'm an ex ex JW.

  And I didn't take your read on his post - simply read it as the case and money order is on hold due to the appeal hearing.