she was a fine sister with a history that went back six generations with jehovahs witnesses.
her family boasted well over 1000 jw family members, many of which had high station within the organization.
this proud heritage was marred by another fact in the familys history this sister had not disclosed.
It's great when you have a user with multiple (at least two) accounts stalking your every post - it makes you feel loved. I've told her I'm happily married and not interested but she's not taking the hint.
I say at least two as it's suspicious that a new poster has registered and immediately ressurected a 16 year old thread using a very familiar writing style. But I could be wrong and Oletta gets the benefit of the doubt.
she was a fine sister with a history that went back six generations with jehovahs witnesses.
her family boasted well over 1000 jw family members, many of which had high station within the organization.
this proud heritage was marred by another fact in the familys history this sister had not disclosed.
Hi Oletta - interesting first post. Welcome to the site, pop over to the introductions section and say hello.
there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.
but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.
there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.
Yes DD it's a serious thread. The WTS are rightly criticised for their appalling handling of safeguarding issues. There may be evidence to show they are getting better - I'm not sure.
But if we're given a clean piece of paper to rewrite their safeguarding policies, what would we put in place?
I was hoping for some cohesive rational thinking and so far Sir82 has come the closest to my way of thinking.
That said it still leaves two areas I'm uncomfortable with;
1) Are we willing to go to the authorities when the victim is now an adult and wants no part of it?
2) What procedures do we put in place to protect the kids in the congregation if the evidence is minimal and the police have decided that no further action is possible?
i'm not killing myself lol i just wanted to say a short goodbye.
i'm not leaving forever, i'm sure i'll pop in here and there but for the most part i haven't felt the need to check in here as often as i used to so i thought i'd say so long.
this journey we're all on (life) and trying to make sense of it all is a very personal one.
Personally I've never understood the need to make dramatic goodbye threads and would never indulge int the practice myself.
< Cough....splutter>
:D
went out with my family and all they talked about was how terrible trump is and how he'll surely bring the great tribulation.
then they started going on about people supporting trump showing that america is becoming racist.
i don't consider myself a trump supporter but i disagreed that that was the reason why he won.
Remember... the cry of "peace and security!" before the end. So.... they must feel Trump is going to bring about peace and security if they think the end is near.
When I see that I always think of the assembly in, I think 85. 1986 was declared by the UN as the year of Peace & security and they were ever so excited!
there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.
but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.
there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.
Why would anyone stand around wondering if the police should be called when a child has been victimized?
When they're not children any more?
there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.
but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.
there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.
Interesting choice for scenarios, very odd choices. These seem a bit leading
I made those choices because some of them need to consider what the victim actually wants to happen as well as the difficult choices they bring with regard to safeguarding.
What needs to happen with straightforward cases of abuse of a small child is just that, straightforward. In a procedural sense if not a human one.
Even those who say the police should be called regardless of what the victim wants haven't broached the sticky subject of what (if anything) the elders should do to safeguard the other children once the police have no further actioned the case.
there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.
but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.
there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.
In addition the society should establish an independent contact point, as many churches have done
That's too sensible an idea - it will never catch on.
For all those (probably including me) who are advocating that the police should be called in all circumstances are we ok with the thought that in some cases this may ride roughshod over the rights of the victim?
there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.
but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.
there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.
In cases where an adult alleges a crime that occurred when he/she was a minor, same principle, It is up to the adult to determine if he/she wishes to press charges. But if the alleged perpetrator is still a danger to the community, the elders should inform the accuser that they will go to the police
This. Only took 4 pages to get there!
there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.
but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.
there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.
Fair enough - so you would call the police against the wishes of an adult who wants to report it to the elders.
FWIW - I agree - I don't think the elders have any right to investigate child abuse and certainly not to question the victim in anyway.
Once the allegation is made how would you handle safeguarding?
In the environment you keep referring to it's the say as you just suspend the individual concerned - that's more difficult in a religious organisation.
