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Romans 13

by pomegranate in

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13:1 everyone [including brooklyn and elders] must submit himself to the governing authorities, .

rom 13:3-5. do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority?

5 therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.. .

pomegranate

Rom 13:1
13:1 Everyone [INCLUDING BROOKLYN AND ELDERS] must submit himself to the governing authorities,

***OUR governing USA authorities say "CHILD MOLESTATION is a SERIOUS CRIME FOR OUR USA GOVERNING AUTHORITIES SYSTEM TO HANDLE." Hand them over TO US!!

But, JW's DO NOT SUBMIT. No, rather, they defy these authorities. They DEFY and REBEL against God to his VERY FACE!

Rom 13:2
2 Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted,

Scriptually, JW's are REBELS AGAINST GOD...they DEFY what God PLAINLY SAYS regarding SUBMISSION TO THESE AUTHORITES so they can PUNISH.

Rom 13:3
3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong.

But JW's don't want "those who do wrong" child molestors to have the terror that God wants them to have by HIS DIVINELY WILLED USA SECULAR AUTHORITIES. Nooooo! They want to protect them from the TERROR & PUNISHMENT that God WILLS and WANTS for the lousy scum bag molestors to experience.

This is OUTRIGHT SIMPLE GOVERNMENTAL DEFIANCE.

Read on you defiant JW's...read on:

Rom 13:3-5
Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4 For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant , an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.

Dance around this one BROOKLYN.

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JWs, Who are they patterned after?

by WildTurkey in

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if you asked a jw, who jehovahs witness were patterned after, they would all answer, the first century cong.

i also would have answered that way, when i was a dub.

but when reading my elder book, i found this:

pomegranate

Can you say Pharisee? Sure ya can.

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JW's part of the WAR MACHINE

by pomegranate in

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this may be aleady known, but for those that don't know: .

the watchtower society owns stock in company called rand cam engine corporation, a division of reg technologies.

this company makes components for smart bombs and the like.

pomegranate

The simple truth:

The WTBTS owns stock in a WAR RELATED COMPANY. PERIOD.

It is a DIRTY stock.

Somewhere in all this, McCann donated 50% of the shares in his own Corp to the Watchtower Society. However, McCann retained all voting rights to those shares._______

It is STILL dirty stock, and they STILL own it.

Neither McCann, nor his Corp, NOR THE WTS has any say-so in what Robertson now does with the technology that he purchased from McCann.________

It is STILL dirty stock, and they STILL own it.

McCann and Robertson have even been in at least one documented legal battle.________

And they STILL own their DIRTY LITTLE STOCK.

Additionally, McCann's original technology had to go through many improvements by Robertson's own engineers before it was marketable._______

THEY STILL OWN A DIRTY LITTLE STOCK.

The "Navy contract" mentioned above is with REGI US, which is the American subsidiary of Robertson's REG TECH._______

The DIRTY LITTLE STOCK is still in their hypocrital pockets.

Again, NEITHER McCann nor the WTS have any control over Robertson or REGI US._______

AND THEY STILL OWN the grimy dirty BLOOD GUILTY stock.

McCann donated shares, (amounting to 50%), of his own RAM CAM ENGINE CORP to the WTS, of which he retained ALL VOTING RIGHTS._______

WAR STOCKS OWNED BY THEM STILL, THAT THEY CHOOSE NOT TO SELL. WITH A TIE TO DEATH THAT EVEYONE SMELLS.

It was McCann's RAM CAM ENGINE CORP that received the REG TECH shares (49% MINORITY OWNER) as payment for receiving an "exclusive license" to market McCann's patent._______

DIRTY STOCK DIRTY STOCK. NO STINKING EXCUSE.

McCann controls RCEC, but he has no control over Robertson's REG TECH, other than to futilely vote RCEC's 49%.________

YET they STILL retain their DIRTY LITTLE STOCK in their greedy little hands.

The WTS has NO VOTE in RCEC matters, much less anything to do with Robertson's Corp._______

YET THEY STILL DON'T SELL THE GRIME BALL STOCK that KILLS KILLS KILLS.

After all that, THEN it is even a SEPARATE subsidiary Corp that is doing business with the NAVY. That is REGI US.________

WTBTS is HOLDING DIRTY SHARES they know it and RETAIN THE DIRTY LITTLE STOCK.

There is NO EVIDENCE that REGI US was doing military business at the time McCann donated RCEC stock to the WTS._______

THE POINT IS THEY ARE NOW (Since Dec 2001). Yet they STILL hold on to their DIRTY LITTLE STOCK.

REGI US has lost money every year it as existed, and it has NEVER paid dividends to REG TECH, thus REG TECH could not have ever paid "dirty money" dividends to RCEC, and OBVIOUSLY the WTS has not received any such "dirty money" from RCEC._______

DIRTY STOCK WILL BE DIRTY STOCK, we are talking DEATH BY WAR MACHINE, NOT PROFIT OR LOSE.

Even if at some point 20 years from now REGI US were to make a profit, there is no guarantee that dividends would flow to REG TECH, or then from REG TECH to RCEC, or from RCEC to the WTS._______

DIRTY STOCK. FILTHY ROTTEN DIRTY DIGUSTING STOCK THAT TIES THE JW's TO DEATH AND DESTRUCTION.

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JW's part of the WAR MACHINE

by pomegranate in

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this may be aleady known, but for those that don't know: .

the watchtower society owns stock in company called rand cam engine corporation, a division of reg technologies.

this company makes components for smart bombs and the like.

pomegranate

This may be aleady known, but for those that don't know:

The Watchtower Society owns stock in company called Rand Cam Engine Corporation, a division of Reg Technologies. This company makes components for smart bombs and the like. There is hard evidence available that you can examine to prove that the WTBTS is GUILTY to yourself.

All companies who trade stock must complete quarterly company reports and file them with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). I will copy from this SEC report, the Watchtowers documented ownership in this company.

This is the link:

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/922330/000101540201502232/0001015402-01-502232.txt

On this document, at Part 3, Item 11, page 24, you will see the majority stockholders listed. (You will have to scroll about 3/4 of the way down the page.) This is what you will see:

Class A Shares Owned, Percentage of Class A Shares Owned

John G. Robertson, Chairman of the Board
of Directors, President and Director (1) (2) 5,966,050 58.37%

The Watchtower Society (3) 5,257,900 51.44%

James McCann (4) 5,257,900 51.44%

Rand Energy Group Inc. (5) 5,257,900 51.44%

Jennifer Lorette, Vice President and
Director (6) 85,500 *

James Vandeberg, Chief Operating Officer
and Director 75,000 *

Patrick Badgley, Vice President, Research
and Development and Director
75,000 *
ALL EXECUTIVE OFFICERS &
DIRECTORS AS A GROUP (FOUR
INDIVIDUALS) (7) 6,201,550 60.67%

Well, last December, Rand Cam signed a contract with the U.S. Navy to supply parts/engines for unmanned warcraft. Here is the press release that is on Reg Tech home pag:

Navy Contract Awarded

For Immediate Release: December 6, 2001 - Vancouver B.C. - Reg Technologies, Inc. (RRE.V / OTC BB: REG RF) and its U.S. subsidiary REGI U.S., Inc. (OTC BB: RGUS) wish to announce that a U.S. Navy contract (SBIR No1-144) has been awarded to Advanced Ceramics Research (prime contractor) and REGI U.S., Inc. to build and test a Naval 0.5 horsepower ceramic engine. The proposed engine is a four stroke Rand Cam engine utilizing continuous injection and combustion in a single combustion chamber. The engine will be of all ceramic construction to permit high temperature operation, without cooling, to effectively burn heavy oil. This new motor will be developed for powering the U.S. Navys new Smart War-fighter Array of Re-configurable Modules (SWARM) low cost unmanned aerial vehicle.

REGI U.S., Inc. is currently in negotiations with Advanced Ceramics Research to license the Ceramic Rand Cam Engine for commercial and U.S. Navy applications for this type of engine. REGI U.S., Inc. will receive 30% of the Phase I budget and 50% of the Phase II budget when awarded. The contract should start before the end of the calendar year. The total Phase I and Phase II budgets is expected to be $850,000.

The link for the above is here:

http://www.regtech.com/

First, click on the icon on the top of the page called "news." Then on the menu choices, pick December 6 2001 and the press release confirming their Naval contract will appear.

JW's Anti War? More like Blood guilty eh?

Edited by - pomegranate on 16 July 2002 8:4:39

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note from Paul Blizard

by Dogpatch in

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heh heh,.

this reminds me of the time i went back to bethel in 1986(?

) and walked along with albert schroeder for a block or two, with questions of my own.

pomegranate

Every man is given opportunity to repent and give their lives to Jesus Christ

Give their lives to Jesus? <scratching head> How can someone do that when the life they have isn't even their own to give? Someone has it bass akwards, ya know?

"I know, O LORD, that a man's life is not his own." Jer 10:23

"For every living soul belongs to me, the father as well as the son-both alike belong to me." Ezek 18:4

"You are not your own; you were bought at a price." 1 Cor 6:19-20

All lives already belong to Him. Give their lives??? You can't give what ya don't own.

Lucy!! You got some 'splainin' to do!!

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Why The WTS is Grateful To APOSTATES!!!!!!

by ISP in

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because we sharpen their act.. we point out crap in their literature....regularly and in detail.

consider the un situation.....they would still be atop of the scarlet coloured wild beast if it was not because of apostates.

possibly incurring gods great displeasure and other stuff.. .

pomegranate

The scholarship that forms the basis for the rendering of the above-cited texts in the New World Translation is sound...

Sound my arse...

There is not one "Bible scholar" that supports their NWT renderings...liars.

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angels

by yentel in

do angels get tired?.

see daniel 9:21[nwt]

pomegranate

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adam & eve

by gotcha in

does anyone here take the creation story literally?

if yes, did u do ample research and think carefully but still believe in it?

if u don't think that the story should be taken as literal, what is your reading of it and do u still believe in the bible as the inspired word of god?...thanks in advance..

pomegranate

>>It is evident that when you are confronted with arguments you can't debate, you result in insults. That is childish. The truth is you have a fatalistic and extreme Calvinistic view of election that is not supported by the Bible. That is not a lie, it is the truth.>>

Where's your grammar leasson for me? You have yet to show me a different rule of subject and predicate. And you can't.

>>The attempt to cover up ALL men with Satan is silly.<<

The scripture DOES NOT SAY ALL MEN. IT SAYS <b>ANYONE</b>. You're the one reading things into the Bible that are not there.

>>Men are born sinful, but have the ability to repent and the ability to believe and subject themselves to God's will.<<

Men have NO ability, sin can do NOTHING but sin unless God changes that HIMSELF. God chooses men that will obey. That's the way it was from the beginning. That's the way it will always be.

>>Satan is far different.<<

Satan is an "anyone." Demons are "anyone." The Pharisees were "anyones." Those DOOMED by blaspheming the Spirt are "anyone." You are incorrect. Men who NEVER stop sinning are also "anyones."

2 Peter 2:14
14 With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed-an accursed brood!

So, these ones prophesied above? They can become saved? FAT CHANCE. If these men have been prophesied about, there are men who are DOOMED to this very destiny. God already knows who they are, because they have been prophesied about. Basic Logic.

>>The main problem I have with your argument is that you are saying that God chooses some to believe and others not.<<

I most certainly am and so is Romans 9. Thanks for paying so much attention. That is the WHOLE DEAL. For Jesus to make a statment as condemning as "broad and spacious is the road leading off to destruction" how can he say that unless he knew that to be true? In order for him to know that to be true, he has to know who they are already. Faith is through Christ. Deny it all you like. Denial does not change the truth. Denial makes it known who you are.

>>That is not Biblical.<<

Sure the heck is. You have defended yourself with nothing. Claiming you understand the grammar with no explaination of it. Faith is a gift from God. He has assumed control. You have NO CONTROL over your own destiny. God controls ALL THINGS unto Himself. If you do not like it, you do not like God.

>>Do you not think that Satan believes in God? Of course he does. He has just rejected him. If Satan turned himself around and subjected himself to God's will he could be saved, but we know he would never do that and I am not saying he ever would. He is all evil.<<

Doomed to die just like those like him. And God already knows who they are. All men are doomed to die. Unless God salvaged some men FOR HIMSELF...BY HIMSELF, all men would be condemned to death. ALL MEN are condemned to death and it is God who chooses who He wants out of all the condemned. You are powerless over your destiny. If you had power over your destiny, that would make you God. You are not God. You are a crappy man like me. So much poo poo on the front yard of life.

>>I do agree that people who sin against the Holy Spirit have sins that are unforgivable according to the scriptures.<<

Then you don't agree with the Bible or Christ. You preach your own gospel that Christ never taught. So you are in the lie mode again:

Mark 3:29
29 But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin."

>>But a sin against the Holy Spirit is to deny Christ, the same as not believing in him.<<

See the above. You are incorrect.

>>You are adding text to the Bible when you say that how would Jesus know how much faith Peter had unless he gave it to him.<<

"INCREASE OUR FAITH!!" You are blind to the truth of God. You sure did not address this one sport. The Apostles asked Christ to increase their faith. The Bible says faith is THROUGH Christ. Deny it, and you deny Christ.

>>He knew because he was God and was all knowing.<<

He was NOT God! He was a man who USED to be God when he was in heaven. He had the Father's power on him, and he was the means by which all men receive their faith.

>>The text does not say he knew because he gave Peter his faith in the first place.<<

INCREASE OUR FAITH!!! That was the Apostles request to Jesus. Jesus DID increase their faith, because ithey could not. It is not in man to increase it or even conjure it up as faith comes from God the Father through his Son.

>>Romans 3:11 -18 is Paul's indictment to the Jewish people that the law will not save them. Taken out of context it doesn't say what you are implying.<<

You a liar. It SAYS PLAINLY that Jew and Gentile are alike. It has NOTHING to do with your fabrication to hide the truth of men's utter debased condition and impossilbilty to find the truth of God on their own:

Rom 3:9-18
9 What shall we conclude then? Are we any better? Not at all! We have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under sin. 10 As it is written:

"There is no one righteous, not even one;
11 there is no one who understands,
no one who seeks God.
12 All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one."
13 "Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit."
"The poison of vipers is on their lips."
14 "Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness."
15 "Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16 ruin and misery mark their ways,
17 and the way of peace they do not know."
18 "There is no fear of God before their eyes."

That is mankind, Jew and Gentile alike. So your scam "out of context" has been shown to be a lie. One lie generates the next. It is a viscious cycle that God will end.

>>John 1:13 must be put in context. The verses are talking about Jesus and the verses before it say : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, HE GAVE THE RIGHT to become children of God- children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.<<

See the BOLD? It is not man's right to create it. It IS NOT their decsion. It is Jesus right to give it and decide WHO to give it to.

>>John 1 :9 says that this is available to ALL men who believe. It is available to all, not just a chosen few.<<

You preach a lie.

>>My argument is simple: Man has the free will to chose God or not.<<

That is a lie.

>>If Man repents of his sins, choses to open his heart to God and profess his faith in him, the Holy Spirit dwells within him and he is born again.<<

Man cannot choose ANYTHING on his own. God gives the man faith in order to believe. Then the fruitage of a believer follows.

>>Eph 2:4,5 - God made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions it is by grace that we are saved. This passage does not change by argument

GOD MADE US ALIVE. And yet you preach, you make yourself alive. That is a bald faced lie.

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adam & eve

by gotcha in

does anyone here take the creation story literally?

if yes, did u do ample research and think carefully but still believe in it?

if u don't think that the story should be taken as literal, what is your reading of it and do u still believe in the bible as the inspired word of god?...thanks in advance..

pomegranate

Christianity is a God established spirtuality.

My bubble is still inflated.

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adam & eve

by gotcha in

does anyone here take the creation story literally?

if yes, did u do ample research and think carefully but still believe in it?

if u don't think that the story should be taken as literal, what is your reading of it and do u still believe in the bible as the inspired word of god?...thanks in advance..

pomegranate

I have no religious convictions.

I have spirtual tendencies.

I hate man made religion.