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some witness theological beliefs are, man has free will, god can see the future.. i used to wonder how this could work.for if god could see you were going to do something then you must do it, otherwise god is wrong, so therefore you had no choice.. take judas for example.jesus is believed to have known he would be betrayed by him.in fact it is suppossed to have been prophesied in psalms that someone close to him would do so.. if god could see that judas would kill jesus then once this predicion was made judas had no choice no free will to choose not to.so either god can't really see the furture and can just make predictions or man has no free will.if when god looks into the future this causes an event to happen , its gods fault if he see something bad happening , as if he didn't look it would not have been set in stone.. if it is predictions that god makes (not acktual knowledge of what will happen)then what are these based on?.
knowledge of the human brain and how it works?if so, then man actions are purly based on mechanisms within the brain that are so rigid that you with enought knowledge can know them thousands of years before.so if mans sins it not his fault , theres nothing he can do about it , he has no free will.so god is not just in punishing him.. whichever way it does not work out as fair or logical that a god could see the future and for man to have free will..
>>God must have known when he gave the angels and man "free will" that some percentage would rebel.<<
So. Your God KNEW of evil before it existed?
Then, that means YOUR God is the source of all evil.
Bah Humbug on that God. (Glad he's not mine.)
Happy Sunday.
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some witness theological beliefs are, man has free will, god can see the future.. i used to wonder how this could work.for if god could see you were going to do something then you must do it, otherwise god is wrong, so therefore you had no choice.. take judas for example.jesus is believed to have known he would be betrayed by him.in fact it is suppossed to have been prophesied in psalms that someone close to him would do so.. if god could see that judas would kill jesus then once this predicion was made judas had no choice no free will to choose not to.so either god can't really see the furture and can just make predictions or man has no free will.if when god looks into the future this causes an event to happen , its gods fault if he see something bad happening , as if he didn't look it would not have been set in stone.. if it is predictions that god makes (not acktual knowledge of what will happen)then what are these based on?.
knowledge of the human brain and how it works?if so, then man actions are purly based on mechanisms within the brain that are so rigid that you with enought knowledge can know them thousands of years before.so if mans sins it not his fault , theres nothing he can do about it , he has no free will.so god is not just in punishing him.. whichever way it does not work out as fair or logical that a god could see the future and for man to have free will..
>>but they have free choice to cross<<
I believe God already knows all the choices that will be made.
ok here's your chance...not neccesarily your favorite,but what you think is the best one....one vote apiece please... .
mine is he stopped loving her today by george jones...i love the sentiment,that he loved her til the day he died.
cowboyedited by - cowboy on 21 july 2002 6:20:26.
Close to the Edge - YES
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some witness theological beliefs are, man has free will, god can see the future.. i used to wonder how this could work.for if god could see you were going to do something then you must do it, otherwise god is wrong, so therefore you had no choice.. take judas for example.jesus is believed to have known he would be betrayed by him.in fact it is suppossed to have been prophesied in psalms that someone close to him would do so.. if god could see that judas would kill jesus then once this predicion was made judas had no choice no free will to choose not to.so either god can't really see the furture and can just make predictions or man has no free will.if when god looks into the future this causes an event to happen , its gods fault if he see something bad happening , as if he didn't look it would not have been set in stone.. if it is predictions that god makes (not acktual knowledge of what will happen)then what are these based on?.
knowledge of the human brain and how it works?if so, then man actions are purly based on mechanisms within the brain that are so rigid that you with enought knowledge can know them thousands of years before.so if mans sins it not his fault , theres nothing he can do about it , he has no free will.so god is not just in punishing him.. whichever way it does not work out as fair or logical that a god could see the future and for man to have free will..
1 John 3:20
For God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything.
I believe if there is a God, and it's the God of the Bible, and the Bible's true, and He does know everything, then there is no free will...
I believe it's more like free time.
[edited for typo]
Edited by - pomegranate on 21 July 2002 7:54:23
COMF
Sorry...Didn't see yer inquiry at the bottom of yer post...All I did on that song was the lyrics, melody and vocal performance.
So the line up was Scott - guitars/bass, Mike - drums (Both from New Mexico), and vocals - me.
Scott had that instrumental tune kickin around for a while. We bumped into each other on a BB, scanned each others talents and agreed to do something...It was fun and we both think it came out pretty decent.
Hey arachnia...I made my own bass. It's a fretless thingy with a maple neck and a walnut body.
Here it is:
It's sitting on the chair I'm sitting in now!!! Kindy funky lookin eh??
let's post some of our 80's pic, or even further back if you want to.
it would really be fun to see some of you in your finest witness attire, bookbag and all.
baptism pics would be a blast to see.. wild turkey had this idea ,but he already started two threads.
I thought these were 'posed to be embarassing pics???
All I've seen is non-embarassing very nice pics of beautiful people (besides the occasssional x's in there)
I just dug out a shoe box of pics and fired up me scanner for another thread...now, would this be considered embarassing?
Hmmm.
Hey sunshine...anything listenable posted on the net anywhere???
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OK COMF, here's a good laugh...age 6 brushin' up on me chops:
Dig that kit man??? If I recollect, I was sitting on the phone book too!!
Hey, dig the cuffs and the boots!! I wuz styling man...
>>What's a muscian
Evidence of a dork who can't spell!! Oopth! Thorry...
COMF:
Too bad ya live so far away...you come from ZZ Top country!!!! La Grange rules..
Well, not doing drums any longer. Mainly vocals and guitar now, leaning mostly towards vocals and lyrics. Have been mostly collaborating alot with other muscians I meet on the net. I've done projects with guys from California, New Mexico, Netherlands, Germany, North Carolina and more...the net has been a great source of great people to record with long distance. I have remaining stuff on the net scattered about...wait...finding a link...
http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/?aid=1603/singles
This was a tune I did with two guys from NM. Never met them, everything was done over the net. They recorded their parts in NM, sent me the file, I wrote and recorded my parts, done. It's a very aggressive rock number based around a Native American named Leonard Pelltier who is currently in prison...Hopefully this link will work. The first arrow from the left is Lo-speed for dial up connections, the next arrow is for Hi-speed for cable DSL and the down arrow is for downloading the file to yer 'puter. Sometimes the quailty of the streaming is piss poor, so DL'ing might be a better option if the streaming bites. :-O
I've got more scattered around the net, I'll find the links and post if your interested. I have other stuff not as errr intense shall we say. I have some old pics around too...I think. Let me see if I can dig them up...Errrr....need to check my scanner make sure it's working...
Farkel:
Checked out the linked thread...classical stuff eh? Look forward to hearing it...
What are you getting/(got?) for recording software? I guess you are going to be recording an acoustic piano...you got microphones?? Are you planning to use a mixer? Interested in your game plan...
Edited by - pomegranate on 20 July 2002 21:6:18
Valis said:
I play drums...mostly percussion. I have congas, bongos, several Native American drums, lots of noise makers, and a couple of drums I can't describe..*L* Haven't played in a while becuase most of them need new heads and that's not cheap.
Cool. I did a collaborative tune with a Native American who had lots of authentic NA perscussion instruments. Some of that stuff was soooo awesome. Using real animal parts and stuff!!
I started out playing drums when I was 6. Nothing like the sound of a pounding double bass kit if you ask me. Re: drum heads not being cheap, NOTHING in being a muscian is cheap. Especially if your into recording like me. Any recordings of you playing available on the net. Pics???
peaceloveharmony said:
i like music, does that count? :P
Yes it does...
Hillary said:
As a guitarist I am a legend in my own mind. As a songwriter I had a few successes, probably before most of you were born....lol
Part of my work these days is in music production and marketing. I also arrange the odd gig here and there if I can combine some interesting chemistry. I am presently working on a songwriters in the round gig in the fall for the North West ( US ), please let me know if any of you are interested and I will send details.
Great!! What do you mean by successes? Published and made some dough? I was born in '59. You're not that old are ya?!?!?
How so with music production? In the studio? Are you a producer? Marketing?? Curious about that too. You mean promotion and stuff like that? The songwriters in the round sounds terrific. Too bad I'm in the North East...
Elders Kid said:
If you are interested in seeing me play the radio you can contact me and I'll see if I can schedule an performance in your area.
ONLY if your playing MY MUSIC!! ;)
Spice said:
am learning guitar, I play bass, and I write lyrics......I have a band forming in the process....will be some time before we have anything that I will feel good enough about sharing ( I also play a bit on the didgeridoo)
That's great! How long a bass player? That was the next thing I started playing after the drums. Anything recorded and available to listen to? Didgerdoo? Whoa..Mastered circular breathing??? That is so cool.
Reborn 2002 said:
I play the piano.I took forced lessons as a child, and now I am thankful because it gives me something I can do to relax my mind and be at peace.
Piano is a great composing tool. I mess around with it a little...hacker at best. But I do enjoy it. I believe it can be the most relaxing instrument...the variations on it can be spell binding. I know a keyplayer who is classically oriented that is fantabulous...He takes your brain away with his playing...Sometimes it's good to have the old brain removed for a while, ya know?? Tried recording??
COMF:
Impressive dude. Went to both pages...awesome kit. Great vintage photos!! We have a lot of similar muscial roots. Have you recorded anything in any of your projects?? Where abouts are you anyway? (If I may ask)
RedhorseWoman said:
Well, I'm not exactly good, but I play flute and guitar....sort of.
Flute?? I love that sound. When I think of flute, my mind goes to Ian Anderson (Jethro Tull). He was a master at that thing... How long you been playing?? And hey, haven't we crossed paths elswhere?? ;)
Farkel:
Any stuff available to listen to? Recorded music I mean...
lastcall:
How bout you, anything available up on the net??
Yes no? Any examples on the net?
